Well for starters the exhaust exits from the bathroom. That is it's final destination before leaving the shelter.
This is not a bad idea, to use a rag, then wash it. Everyone could have their own rag and keep it clean. None of this will be pretty. I do have some flannel to make some in various colors.Pre 1700's you pooped in a bucked and wiped with a rag that you washed and reused later.
For odor, I would have some aerosol spray. I am putting that on my shopping list.
I'm thinking the poop smell doesn't contaminate the air, but the aerosol spray would,If you are in a sealed, room/area for 14-21 days, for a missile crisis, I'm concerned about using aerosol spray. I'm thinking that it would compromise whatever limited air is already in the room.
^this was to be flight not fightin a shelter would be the same as on an airplane fight,
I still have a bedside commode that was used when a family member came home from hospital. I would place bags in the container and throw them out of the shelter as needed. Luckily it has an inner lid like a stew pot (sorry for that visual).
Basement shelter has a 12v variable speed fan with HEPA filter for fresh air as needed, potty goes next to exhaust vent.
Two questions:
What if the nuke took out the power grid and that knocked out your exhaust fan?
If it was a fallout situation you were trying to avoid, would you risk contamination in leaving your shelter just to take your poo outside?
All you need to do is to set the bucket outside and close the door. You would need multiple buckets or plastic bags for this plan to work.
In a nuclear situation I would not factor exhaust fans into my plan.
In a situation where there is little water and the sewer is compromised you can place two layers of heavy duty plastic bags in the toilet bowl or bucket. When it gets near full then tie the inner bag and haul it away and dispose of it. Put in another bag and you are set to go. Separating urine is necessary and if you do so just putting the lid down should be adequate for odor control.
If you have used too thin of a bag or waited too long, when you start to see the first bag stretch too much, STOP, grab both bags and get extra strength.
I'm having the same concerns as angie. If we are in a situation where we have to remain securing in one location ... inside ... NOT outside ... wouldn't you be defeating the purpose of that sheltering, by opening a door to toss your bathroom trash OUTSIDE?
I agree about the bags. We have THOUSANDS of grocery sacks stored away . I've always grabbed a 'few' extra, when I'm shopping . For some reason, Hubby has a 'thing' about those plastic sacks and he grabs a HANDFUL whenever he goes ... and he's NOT a prepper. They are SO easy to store, because a lot store in a small space, when they have NOT been opened yet! Literally a few hundred in a shoe box!
Lime. I need MORE lime. But WHERE to store it, in large amounts, when you live in a home, in 'Suburbia'. I also have a lot of cheap kitty litter for 'pottie' needs. Also heavy & takes up a lot of space.
Lime. I need MORE lime. But WHERE to store it, in large amounts, when you live in a home, in 'Suburbia'. I also have a lot of cheap kitty litter for 'pottie' needs. Also heavy & takes up a lot of space.
Another option is the free 3 1/2 gallon buckets you can get at the bakery department at the grocery store. They usually come with a gasketed lid. These are shorter so you might want a short platform to set them on but you can just seal them up as they fill.
I like the idea of the gamma lids for this!I think that once you have the garbage bags tied up, you can put them in a bucket with a tight fitting lid. If you would need to add more to the bucket, it might be better to use gamma-seal lids on those buckets.
Another option is the free 3 1/2 gallon buckets you can get at the bakery department at the grocery store. They usually come with a gasketed lid. These are shorter so you might want a short platform to set them on but you can just seal them up as they fill.
You are correct in considering all the variables with nuke fallout. If your shelter opens up to the outdoors then you do not want to break your seal, as you stated. If you have a basement shelter and your home is intact, then you can consider being able to place the waste outside of the door if needed.I'm still rusty (ie: ignorant) on what precautions need to be taken for a nuke fallout situation and that's the line I'm thinking along. This thread in another forum was presented more that way. Still, there's really good responses here. Without worrying about anything outdoors harming us from the sky, things would be much easier to manage. I don't think I would seal up my outside entrance only to break the seal to set out waste. I really don't know what is safe and what isn't when talking fallout situations. I guess I'd rather err on the side of caution. The emergency radio would likely determine a lot, but I dunno. If I KNEW for a fact that nukes hit the mainland, I think I'd disappear in my hole and seal up the entrances as soon as possible and stay there for 2-3 weeks. I have some reading to do......again.
So many books..............
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