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The children's home I grew up in had a pasture next to Lackland AFB. The airmen kept cutting across it to get to the bus stop or stripmall. Many mornings there were people sitting up in the old tree with a herd of cows around it. The lead cow was possessive of her pasture and the herd followed her lead. The bull however was a lover. Especially if you had marshmallows.
 
Bulls are far less dangerous than cows in my experience, bulls like to show their the boss and leave it at that, When a cow comes for you she usually means it and its gonna hurt, All of my Bovine related wounds came from cows.
 
Bulls are far less dangerous than cows in my experience, bulls like to show their the boss and leave it at that, When a cow comes for you she usually means it and its gonna hurt, All of my Bovine related wounds came from cows.

Mine too.
 
The only safe bull is in a semen can.


A DEA officer stops at a ranch in Texas , and talks with an old rancher. He tells the rancher, "I need to inspect your ranch for illegally grown drugs." The rancher says, "Okay, but do not go in that field over there," as he points out the location.

The DEA officer verbally explodes saying, "Mister, I have the authority of the Federal Government with me." Reaching into his rear pants pocket, he removes his badge and proudly displays it to the rancher. "See this badge? This badge means I am allowed to go wherever I wish.... On any land. No questions asked or answers given. Have I made myself clear? Do you understand? "

The rancher nods politely, apologizes, and goes about his chores.

A short time later, the old rancher hears loud screams and sees the DEA officer running for his life chased by the rancher's big Santa Gertrudis bull......

With every step the bull is gaining ground on the officer, and it seems likely that he'll get gored before he reaches safety. The officer is clearly terrified. The rancher throws down his tools, runs to the fence and yells at the top of his lungs.....


"Your badge. Show him your BADGE!"
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Half are like Andy; half are like Barney Fife.

When the real heat is on, the paper tiger hunting Barneys piss themselves like Pearcy Wetmore because all of their courage is wrapped up in the uniform, gun and badge.

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Your are probably maligning Barney. Seems like he was brave enough; his failures were mostly in judgement. That's why Andy issued him only one bullet, to be carried in his shirt pocket. Andy hoped that would give him time to figure it out.

I Used to watch that show whenever work allowed it; probably learned some things.
 
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A DEA officer stops at a ranch in Texas , and talks with an old rancher. He tells the rancher, "I need to inspect your ranch for illegally grown drugs." The rancher says, "Okay, but do not go in that field over there," as he points out the location.

The DEA officer verbally explodes saying, "Mister, I have the authority of the Federal Government with me." Reaching into his rear pants pocket, he removes his badge and proudly displays it to the rancher. "See this badge? This badge means I am allowed to go wherever I wish.... On any land. No questions asked or answers given. Have I made myself clear? Do you understand? "

The rancher nods politely, apologizes, and goes about his chores.

A short time later, the old rancher hears loud screams and sees the DEA officer running for his life chased by the rancher's big Santa Gertrudis bull......

With every step the bull is gaining ground on the officer, and it seems likely that he'll get gored before he reaches safety. The officer is clearly terrified. The rancher throws down his tools, runs to the fence and yells at the top of his lungs.....


"Your badge. Show him your BADGE!"
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When I was growing up we raised nothing but Santa Gertrudis cattle.
They were chosen because they were 'predator-proof', those bulls could become 2,000 pounds of anger if something/someone invaded their territory and turn it into nothing but a blood stain on the turf :oops:. Far worse than any breed, except Brahman.
Those bulls will look at you and say: "Do you really think that fence can keep you safe from me? Watch THIS!" I watched one total a veterinarian's pickup once.
Guess why you always see cowboys on horseback?
They like to stay alive, and they don't have a badge:rolleyes:.
A "not-safe" bull, and likely the last thing some people saw... while they were still alive:
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...This is what pure evil looks like.:mad:
 
Bulls are far less dangerous than cows in my experience, bulls like to show their the boss and leave it at that, When a cow comes for you she usually means it and its gonna hurt, All of my Bovine related wounds came from cows.
Yep!
Speaking of Santa Gertrudis, you see the calf in this pic?
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Guess what, you ain't touchin' it!
Mama will plow the ground with you!!!:eyeballs:
Been there, still have scars too, we learned fast! :thumbs:
(They are very nice the whole year...until they have a calf)
 
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When I was growing up we raised nothing but Santa Gertrudis cattle.
They were chosen because they were 'predator-proof', those bulls could become 2,000 pounds of anger if something/someone invaded their territory and turn it into nothing but a blood stain on the turf :oops:. Far worse than any breed, except Brahman.
Those bulls will look at you and say: "Do you really think that fence can keep you safe from me? Watch THIS!" I watched one total a veterinarian's pickup once.
Guess why you always see cowboys on horseback?
They like to stay alive, and they don't have a badge:rolleyes:.
A "not-safe" bull, and likely the last thing some people saw... while they were still alive:
portrait-of-a-large-brahma-bull-in-a-pasture-in-east-texas-on-a-cattle-AYHWCX.jpg

...This is what pure evil looks like.:mad:

I worked a lot of different cattle through a chute and the craziest were Brahma.

I would say that I wouldn't own any if you gave them to me, but that isn't quite true.

I'd own them long enough to haul them to the sale barn and turn them into green money to buy some civilized cattle.
 
Your are probably maligning Barney. Seems like he was brave enough; his failures were mostly in judgement. That's why Andy issued him only one bullet, to be carried in his shirt pocket. Andy hoped that would give him time to figure it out.

I Used to watch that show whenever work allowed it; probably learned some things.

Could be.

Barney was dopy but not mean spirited.

I have absolutely no use for vindictive cowards that hide behind a badge and deliberately ruin lives because they can.

If you knew their history, they probably went through high school and got a wedgie most every day and now they are mad at the world but lack the guts to go after the really bad actors.

Paper tiger hunters pretending that they have huevos.
 
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The only safe bull is in a semen can.

I'll agree with that! We raised Charolais, gentle? Usually. I tried to put this one in a trailer. He put me in the hospital. The day I got out a cousin came over with is tranq gun an several guys. Even partially sedated it took all of them and a tractor to get the bull in the trailer.

I don't trust any bull, ever! I used that walking stick for 6 months.



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I'll agree with that! We raised Charolais, gentle? Usually. I tried to put this one in a trailer. He put me in the hospital. The day I got out a cousin came over with is tranq gun an several guys. Even partially sedated it took all of them and a tractor to get the bull in the trailer.

I don't trust any bull, ever! I used that walking stick for 6 months.



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A pet peeve of mine is folks who get around livestock and go anthropomorphic.

They talk about them having feelings, empathy and all that rot.

I guess they watched too many Disney movies.

NEVER turn your back on mature cattle, regardless of gender.

I'll grant you dairy cows are some different due to being handled so much by humans, however, if there is a cleanup bull running with them, pick him out when you enter the lot and never take your eyes off of him.

My FIL bought some Charolais cross cows when he started out in the cattle business.

Those things were as wild as deer, and they never settled down as long as he owned them.

As for your second picture.

Don't you know that blackface is insensitive and racist to say nothing about appropriation?
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Glad I grew up in dairy country. Been chased by Holstein cows, but I think they weren't really trying to catch me.

Hah. And once by a herd of Jersey heifers, but they were after sugar cubes.

I spent the first eight years of my life on a dairy in Storrs Connecticut, (home of the UConn Huskies)

My first experience with a Holstein was when she mule kicked me for being dumb enough to walk up behind her while she was standing next to her new calf.

I was probably 6.

The next time, dopy me wanted to get a closer look at a cow that had freshened out in the pasture.

She came after me by golly and I hightailed it to the far stone wall.

And to think I've lived to see 65.

Here, hold my beer.
 
The bull I posted was a special case... I've never seen an animal slowly lose its mind like this one. It happened over the course of a year. As each month passed he got more deranged, nuts, insane, pick your adjective. He had some kind of medical issue, a brain tumor, a brain infection of some type, I don't know. But... he also got more dangerous as each month passed, more erratic. Toward the end I don't think he even recognized where he was, didn't know me or dad, the cows...

I had trouble convincing my dad, he couldn't see what I was seeing. He'd say, "oh, he just spooked" or "he's just feeling frisky". NO dad! the bull is losing his mind! I wanted to sell him 6 months sooner. I knew there was something very wrong with that animal. When my cousin got him to his barn he stopped eating. He was down to 1100lbs the day he sold, still managed to wreck parts of the sale barn.
 
The bull I posted was a special case... I've never seen an animal slowly lose its mind like this one. It happened over the course of a year. As each month passed he got more deranged, nuts, insane, pick your adjective. He had some kind of medical issue, a brain tumor, a brain infection of some type, I don't know. But... he also got more dangerous as each month passed, more erratic. Toward the end I don't think he even recognized where he was, didn't know me or dad, the cows...

I had trouble convincing my dad, he couldn't see what I was seeing. He'd say, "oh, he just spooked" or "he's just feeling frisky". NO dad! the bull is losing his mind! I wanted to sell him 6 months sooner. I knew there was something very wrong with that animal. When my cousin got him to his barn he stopped eating. He was down to 1100lbs the day he sold, still managed to wreck parts of the sale barn.

Bovine spongiform encephalopathy?

What are the Signs of BSE in Cows?

A common sign of BSE in cows is incoordination. A sick cow has trouble walking and getting up. A sick cow may also act very nervous or violent, which is why BSE is often called “mad cow disease.”

It usually takes four to six years from the time a cow is infected with the abnormal prion to when it first shows symptoms of BSE. This is called the incubation period. During the incubation period, there is no way to tell that a cow has BSE by looking at it. Once a cow starts to show symptoms, it gets sicker and sicker until it dies, usually within two weeks to six months. There is no treatment for BSE and no vaccine to prevent it.
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Glad I grew up in dairy country. Been chased by Holstein cows, but I think they weren't really trying to catch me.

Hah. And once by a herd of Jersey heifers, but they were after sugar cubes.
He, he! You had it good! Those were pets.:)
Funny short story:
I still remember when we were growing up and whenever we had to go after a yearling that got out, we looked like the crew in "Hatari!".
2 guys in the back of the truck with a lasso. When we roped it we would go down the rope and fight it to the ground tooth-and-nail for at least 15 minutes until we had it's feet tied up.
One of us teens usually bleeding when it was over.
One year, a neighbor's hereford yearling broke in on our side of the fence.
We went into the above 'standard-formation' to catch it.
We raced down the rope and slammed it to the ground.
It's eyes rolled back in it's head and it remaining motionless.:oops:
We looked at each other and said: "Dam, did we kill it?":dunno:
No, and we didn't even have to tie it up. No fight.
We just got a quick look at why everybody else raised normal cattle, instead of 'those red Satan cows'. (what the neighbors called them:confused:)
Catching one of ours be like:
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@Wyatt I don't think so, I remember researching it at the time. When I drilled into the details he didn't match. He never lost any of his physical abilities, at all. Loss of physical coordination is usually the first sign. He exhibited mental instability for more than a year. Mad cow is quick once symptoms appear, down to a few weeks.

I dug through the Merck manual, my best guess was a tumor. In any case he was sold as pet food. He probably ended up as a serving of Blue Buffalo. Pet food is such a racket!!! Folk with pets should spend a week at a sale barn looking at the animals that are destined to be Spot's dinner before dishing out big bucks for the "Best".
 
He, he! You had it good! Those were pets.:)
Funny short story:
I still remember when we were growing up and whenever we had to go after a yearling that got out, we looked like the crew in "Hatari!".
2 guys in the back of the truck with a lasso. When we roped it we would go down the rope and fight it to the ground tooth-and-nail for at least 15 minutes until we had it's feet tied up.
One of us teens usually bleeding when it was over.
One year, a neighbor's hereford yearling broke in on our side of the fence.
We went into the above 'standard-formation' to catch it.
We raced down the rope and slammed it to the ground.
It's eyes rolled back in it's head and it remaining motionless.:oops:
We looked at each other and said: "Dam, did we kill it?":dunno:
No, and we didn't even have to tie it up. No fight.
We just got a quick look at why everybody else raised normal cattle, instead of 'those red Satan cows'. (what the neighbors called them:confused:)
Catching one of ours be like:
hatari04chevroletpickuptruck19-504.jpg

I remember watching this as a kid.

I always like the theme song.

 
That particular DEA guy is only technically an officer. In the Real World he is an ossifer.

Ossifer - definitions:
  1. A fool with a badge
  2. A badge-empowered *******
If I remember right they kill unarmed women & children.
 
Only if you now know how to butcher & preserve 900 pounds of hot bloody meat!
 
Bulls/cattle can smell/sense if you are scared. If they do, they will behave worse.

The best frame of mind to be in when you handle cattle is the right blend of calm and assertive.

If you do have to back down in a confrontation with a bull/cow, then it is time to get rid of that animal. If it has dominated you once, it will remember and be likely to want to do that all the time. If your other stock see that happen, they may be more likely to try that on too.

Breeding with temperament as the top priority is the best way to get safe cattle. My current bull is essentially a 2000 pound puppy. He likes me to hand feed him and when we yard with him in the herd, he is no more trouble than any of the cows. In a paddock he regularly lets me get close enough to touch his head.

Back twenty years ago we had a psycho bull that tried to kill me in the yard. A cow stepped in between me and the bull and stopped the encounter. To this day, I interpret that she didn't want anyone to "hurt the boss". We selectively kept her calves and their descendants - they are now about 25% of the herd.

I never forget that cattle are first and foremost food for us humans - but they still can be interesting animals.
 
Been there, done that.

What about slaughtering cattle do you wish to know?

Ain't none of it rocket surgery.
I done deer,hogs,chickens,rabbits.
After I did my first deer without any help, think I could do a cow to halfs.
I have a brother that was a meat cutter for 10 years, so I would have help with the steaks & roast, everything else would be ground meat.
The frontloader would work to hang the cow.
 

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