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I don't have one, but my daughter does. I have spent lots of time at her place, so Alexa has been listening to all the prepping videos I have watched.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019...mazon-employees-listening-alexa-conversations

Busted: Thousands Of Amazon Employees Listening To Alexa Conversations

by Tyler Durden
Thu, 04/11/2019 - 05:25

Amazon employs thousands of people to listen in on what people around the world are saying to their Alexa digital assistant, according to what is sure to be a Congressional hearing-inspiring report by Bloomberg, which cites seven people who have worked on the program.

While their job is to "help improve" NSAlexa - which powers the company's line of Echo speakers - the team "listens to voice recordings captured in Echo owners’ homes and offices," which are then transcribed, annotated and fed back into the software in order to try and improve Alexa's understanding of human speech for more successful interactions. In other words, humans are effectively helping to train Amazon's algorithm.

In marketing materials Amazon says Alexa “lives in the cloud and is always getting smarter.” But like many software tools built to learn from experience, humans are doing some of the teaching. -Bloomberg

terms of use, the company collects and stores most of what you say to Alexa - including the geolocation of the product along with your voice instructions, reported CNBC's Todd Haselton last November.

Your messages, communication requests (e.g., "Alexa, call Mom"), and related instructions are "Alexa interactions," as described in the Alexa Terms of Use. Amazon processes and retains your Alexa Interactions and related information in the cloud in order to respond to your requests (e.g., "Send a message to Mom"), to provide additional functionality (e.g., speech to text transcription and vice versa), and to improve our services. -Amazon Terms of Use

Alexa, are you spying on me?

Alexa: *coughs* No, of course not.

Last May, an Amazon Echo recorded a conversation between a husband and wife, then sent it to one of the husband's phone contacts. Amazon claims that during the conversation someone used a word that sounded like "Alexa," which caused the device to begin recording.

"Echo woke up due to a word in background conversation sounding like ‘Alexa,’" said Amazon in a statement. "Then, the subsequent conversation was heard as a ‘send message’ request. At which point, Alexa said out loud ‘To whom?’ At which point, the background conversation was interpreted as a name in the customer’s contact list. Alexa then asked out loud, ‘[contact name], right?’ Alexa then interpreted background conversation as ‘right’. As unlikely as this string of events is, we are evaluating options to make this case even less likely."

The wife, Danielle, however said that the Echo never requested her permission to send the audio. "At first, my husband was like, ‘No, you didn’t,’" Danielle told KIRO7. "And he’s like, ‘You sat there talking about hardwood floors.’ And we said, ‘Oh gosh, you really did!’"

Can you disable?

Alexa does allow people to stop sharing their voice recordings for the development of new features, while a screenshot reviewed by Bloomberg reveals that the recordings provided to Alexa's listeners do not provide the full name or address of a user. It does, however, link the recording to an account number, the user's first name, and the device's serial number.

"You don’t necessarily think of another human listening to what you’re telling your smart speaker in the intimacy of your home," said UMich professor Florian Schaub, who has researched privacy issues related to smart speakers. "I think we’ve been conditioned to the [assumption] that these machines are just doing magic machine learning. But the fact is there is still manual processing involved."

"Whether that’s a privacy concern or not depends on how cautious Amazon and other companies are in what type of information they have manually annotated, and how they present that information to someone," added Schaub.
 
I refuse to have any of these type of items in my home. Also all televisions that are "smart" are not ever connected to the Internet. Laptops here are however all mic and cameras are covered over with electrical tape. This computer that I am writing this on is connected to a large screen tv via a HDMI cable. The TV has not ever connected to the Internet. The actual laptop sits across the room from me and is closed. I use a wireless mouse and keyboard from 15 feet away to control it.
 
I have Alexas in the house. Love them!

Alexa. Weather? Don't have to find my glasses and turn on the outside lights to see the weather.
Alexa. News? While eating breakfast or making the bed.
Alexa. Read "audio book title".
Alexa. Stop.
Alexa. Play my music.
Alexa. How many cups in a gallon?
Alexa. Pizza Hut. What are their hours?

On the flip side we are empty nesters, children live out of state/country. Wife doesn't want to be bothered with financial or "our" plans for SHTF, so there is no conversations to "eavesdrop" on.

Besides. If it is possible for anyone to listen in on Alexa, I would be feeding them lines that would paint me as a harmless old man not worth their resources or time. ;)
 
My wife was watching some show on TV. At the end of the program there was a message that was very loud that said "if you like this show just say Alexa set a reminder for" whatever the name of the show was.
I told my wife that if we had an echo in the room it would have automatically set that reminder. Not something I want to happen. That should be illegal.
We have 3 devices and they all stay turned off until we want to use them.
Link to how to delete all echo recordings.
https://clark.com/technology/delete-amazon-echo-alexa-recordings/
 
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Do you have a smart phone with a microphone and a camera? That's arguably worse than an echo dot.

It's one thing for people to be listening to all conversations - even those where the people have not asked Alexa anything, and another entirely for Amazon employees to be listening to people who have directed their echo devices to understand how to improve the software so the responses are more accurate.
 
Allows you to delete recordings by saying "Alexa, delete everything I said today."

Alexa can do that!?!?

So the next time the wife asks for my opinion and I don't give the opinion the wife wanted me to say I can just say, "Alexa, delete what I just said!" and I can try again?
 
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EVERYTHING that Alexa and other personal assistants "hear" is stored on the net and backed up. It can't be deleted any more than the first message ever posted on this forum can be deleted.
Welcome to the "internet of things".
Have a nice day... or else.
 
Alexa, detonate yourself.
I'm sorry I don't understand...
Alexa, disregard everything you hear.
Yes sir...
Alexa, what did I just say?
Sir, you said, "disregard everything you hear".
Unplug Alexa, beat it with a hammer, grind it through the shredder, and burn the rubble.
Alexa, what time is it?
From the refrigerator, Time to get a new Alexa...

One step into"the internet of things" brought to you by US or THEM... There is no escape you are part of the system. We welcome you. We protect you.
 
No "personal assistant" electronic or other. No "smart" appliances, No TV - cable or otherwise. No computerized cars.
I get along fine without all the ads and monitoring.
 
At one time I really wanted to get a smart home system in place, well until I started to do some research on it, I didn't like all the hidden details about a smart home, like most manufacturers really didn't put much thought or just outright didn't care on hackers. Can you imagine that hackers found out that you were going on vacation for a week, and decided to hack your fridge and shut it off, well that would be a nasty surprise.
 

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