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Weedygarden said:
There is a movie, which I remember little of. I do remember one scene where there is a junker car. The trunk of the car is the entrance to an underground something. Maybe an underground home, maybe a bunker. I can see the actor's face, but cannot tell you who he is. He is an older man, probably in his 60's or 70's now. Does anyone have any idea what this movie is? The thing about the trunk of the car being an entrance to a place where you could go, intrigued me. I have always thought about how you could have a place to jump into and it would be hard to find you there. The trunk MAY have had a slide to go down to get into the place in the ground. Anyone?
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Just watched RED recently. Pretty decent movie about older spies (Bruce Willis, Morgan Freeman, John Malkovich, Helen Mirren) drawn back into action.

This is the scene I thought of when I read your post, Weedy. You can fast-forward to the 1 minute mark or so to see what you described:



(Be warned: Because we enjoyed RED, we rented RED 2 as well, which was truly awful. Stop with the first one, and don't get fooled into watching the sequel.)
 
Tacitus said:
Just watched RED recently. Pretty decent movie about older spies (Bruce Willis, Morgan Freeman, John Malkovich, Helen Mirren) drawn back into action.

This is the scene I thought of when I read your post, Weedy. You can fast-forward to the 1 minute mark or so to see what you described:



(Be warned: Because we enjoyed RED, we rented RED 2 as well, which was truly awful. Stop with the first one, and don't get fooled into watching the sequel.)
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Thank you! I have no memory of seeing this movie, but heck, there are more and more things that I do not remember these days.

But this scene, of a car hiding an entrance to an underground bunker stuck out in my mind.
 
Tacitus said:
Just watched RED recently. Pretty decent movie about older spies (Bruce Willis, Morgan Freeman, John Malkovich, Helen Mirren) drawn back into action.

This is the scene I thought of when I read your post, Weedy. You can fast-forward to the 1 minute mark or so to see what you described:



(Be warned: Because we enjoyed RED, we rented RED 2 as well, which was truly awful. Stop with the first one, and don't get fooled into watching the sequel.)
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If my memory served me correctly one of the characters in the Mad Max series lived in a home accessed through a car trunk, although I think he was younger.
 
The Innkeeper said:
If my memory served me correctly one of the characters in the Mad Max series lived in a home accessed through a car trunk, although I think he was younger.
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there was 2 of them, a younger one and an older one, I think the older one was a flyer in the early part of the film.
 
Bacpacker said:
One second after is my favorite more recent book I've read. Very well written. I'll have to check out the other 2 as well
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There are two sequels to One Second After by the same author: One Year After, and The Final Day. They are good too. There is also a new book by Forstchen, 48 Hours, which sounds similar in tone to those others, but is not a part of the series. I have not read 48 Hours to be able to comment on it yet. Wool has sequels Shift and Dust. I have also read Shift, it's not quite as good as Wool IMHO, but still very good. I have not read Dust yet. Wool is one of my favorites. For some reason, I really got into the story.
 
I just finished One Year a couple months ago. And have The Final Day to take on Vacation later this year.
I think I've read 48 hours a while back, but will have to verify that. I know it was same author, but different story line. Scenario was scary it was so very possible.
I'll have to check out the other as well
 
I ordered One Second After, should be available tomorrow.
Some books you can download for free from your library. There's an app for that, you have to have a library account.
 
Patchouli said:
Some books you can download for free from your library. There's an app for that, you have to have a library account.
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I get the vast majority of my books from the library. They have bazillions of new release, major author, books. And a bunch of lesser known authors as well. I actually have seven library accounts. Around here, libraries are generally a county thing, and so many counties intersect right near where I live that I am allowed to join all of those libraries. Usually you have to go to each county library (branch) once in person to set up your account and get a physical library card (which you will never use, if you just check out eBooks and Audiobooks). But after you've made that one trip to each library to get things initiated, you can sit back at home with a web browser and download all the eBooks and audiobooks you could ever want, for free. Two of my seven libraries didn't even require me to go there in person - they just mailed me my library card.

The app you are probably thinking about for borrowing books from the library is "Overdrive".

Some people worry about most libraries limitation on three weeks as the loan period. After that, you have to renew an eBook, just like you would a physical book. But if there is a wait list on the book, you are not allowed to renew, you have to get back in line and wait your turn again (just like for a physical book). If you find yourself in a situation where the book is due and you haven't finished it yet, just put your Kindle (or whatever eReader you are using) into Airplane Mode. If your eReader can't get to the internet, this will keep your library book available on said eReader for you to finish. Once you let your eReader go online again, the library book will automatically disappear after connection to the internet.
 
Personally, I prefer turning paper pages.
:thumbs: Some libraries have a limit on how many ebooks you can have on hold or checked out at one time.
Funny you have that many accounts.
Audio books are popular too.
Edited to add: new app, Libby.
 
Yeah, thanks for the recommendation!
I stayed up way too late last night reading an actual book. I read for 5 hours and still not finished.
One thing that grinds my gears is somebody writing "of" instead of "have" or " 've " and the book, "One Second After" is filled with it. There were a few other grammatical errors which surprised me. The wording also seemed a bit off in conversations and I sometimes don't follow what exactly is being said by whom since frequently in conversations in a room full of people, just one or two people are talking and it isn't clear who said what. Not much of this, "John said sharply." If you get my drift.
I'm not a published author so I'm allowed to be a screw-up when I write. Lol
How's living out in the boonies going for y'all?
You know how when you watch a movie you might gasp or put your hand over your mouth? I've done that reading this book. At least I didn't cover my eyes. That wouldn't help.
 
Haertig said:
There are two sequels to One Second After by the same author: One Year After, and The Final Day. They are good too. There is also a new book by Forstchen, 48 Hours, which sounds similar in tone to those others, but is not a part of the series. I have not read 48 Hours to be able to comment on it yet. Wool has sequels Shift and Dust. I have also read Shift, it's not quite as good as Wool IMHO, but still very good. I have not read Dust yet. Wool is one of my favorites. For some reason, I really got into the story.
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I just checked, I do have the 48 hours book, but haven't read it yet. May start on it when I finish what I'm reading right now.

Currently I reading "First thru the Grand Canyon" Written by John Wesley Powell. The man himself is quite a story, seriously wounded in the civil war and lost an arm. Recovered and went back to finish the war. Spent a lot of time exploring and surveying out west. He led a crew a months long, several hundred miles in length. They had 4 wooden boats and finished with only 2. The writing is so descriptive of the river and areas they went thru. It almost put you back in time and on the boats with them.
 
What section should it go in, @Bacpacker ?
This is a spoiler, so if you haven't read "One Second After" ...

So, I finished the book. I was disappointed. Surprised. I've seen Jericho, the tv series but that was a bit different.
Maybe I was disappointed because it was life and what could happen. Yeah, it's a disappointment. Surprised...like the main character or someone kept thinking or mentioning...why did the government not prepare in any way for such an event? Who's head should it be on? A state's? A county's?
As the big gang attacked the little city I wondered if, in real life, there are many that are far enough away from the cities to be safe from that kind of aggression. I looked up Asheville and Black Mountain on the map and they weren't far from one another at all (drive time). The size of the national forest area outside of Black Mountain is fair sized. I was surprised they claimed they'd run out of game.
Florida was one of the worst places to be and Texas not far behind for same reasons but additional reasons and the west coast...nightmare.
So the story continues into what..."One Year After"? I haven't read that. Is it worth the read? I read the first book in 3 days.
 
To me Front Porch Chat is a likely landing place. I don't recall a book section in the forum, but could have overlooked it.

I've never watched Jericho, so can't compare the two. Part of the draw of the book is I am familiar with the areas described. The 2 cities aren't far apart. Even Charlotte, the town the gang came from, is just a hundred or so miles apart. The national forest area is a decent size, but also has many areas of housing scattered thruout and decent sized populations along the way. It isn't just barren land altogether.

One Year after is the next book, I thought it was a good follow up. Some places in it I have been to several times as well. Beautiful rugged country. But tough living if you were there in a grid down situation.
 
Patchouli said:
So the story continues into what..."One Year After"? I haven't read that. Is it worth the read? I read the first book in 3 days.
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I have read the series. The first book, One Second After, I rated 4 out of 5 stars. The second and third books, One Year After and The Last Day I rated 3 out of 5 stars each. These last two are a slight step down from the first IMHO, but not a large step down by any means. I thought the whole series was good. It held up much better than most trilogies do.

If it only takes you three days to read a book (wow!), I don't see any reason to not read the next two in this series. You're not wasting any time. It takes me a lot longer to read a book, so by extension, I would potentially waste a lot more time. These books were recommended to me, and after reading them, I recommend them to others as well. But everyone has different tastes.
 
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I just heard William Forstchen that wrote 'One Second After' on Glen Beck this morning. Clearly he understands the possible implications of a full power system failure. He said all the systems are so interlocked and so complex that if it all goes down......how would you bring it all back? They talked of a cyber attack or a coordinated attack on the grid. He said major substations and transformers are dependent upon China and could take at least 2 years to get parts. It's not a flip of the switch kind of system and we don't have stockpiles to replace components and software. It could take up to 5 years to get everything back online. He said he is certain that this will happen within the next 2 years.

Once poeple think there's no help coming, bad things start to happen. According to William: EMP.....first 5 minutes how many people die? A couple hundred thousand will die due to planes falling from the sky. Hospitals and nursing homes would be next on the line of people to die quickly. People who rely on medications for life would be next. He likened America to a jenga tower right now. Glen said the WEF has predicted a critical failure within the next 2 years.

I thought it was interesting that he was on Glen Beck. I don't typically listen to Beck, but I listen to Bongino and when I turned on the radio this morning he was on. Both Glen and William have something to gain by the fear mongering. It sells John's books (mentioned that he has another one coming out in August) and sells Glen's advertisers products.

All of that said, they do provoke a great discussion for those who haven't really thought this through. At a bare minimum, it should make people consider the usefulness of stocked water, meds, food, shelter, propane, etc. It makes me wonder if this will flip a switch in the head of anyone. Glen has warned of things happening before and pushes perparedness, so I'm not sure his audience found this discussion particularly alarming.
 
Bacpacker said:
To me Front Porch Chat is a likely landing place. I don't recall a book section in the forum, but could have overlooked it.

I've never watched Jericho, so can't compare the two. Part of the draw of the book is I am familiar with the areas described. The 2 cities aren't far apart. Even Charlotte, the town the gang came from, is just a hundred or so miles apart. The national forest area is a decent size, but also has many areas of housing scattered thruout and decent sized populations along the way. It isn't just barren land altogether.

One Year after is the next book, I thought it was a good follow up. Some places in it I have been to several times as well. Beautiful rugged country. But tough living if you were there in a grid down situation.
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south of erwin would cull many a person. toss them out and say 'root hog or die'...lol
 
angie_nrs said:
I just heard William Forstchen that wrote 'One Second After' on Glen Beck this morning. Clearly he understands the possible implications of a full power system failure. He said all the systems are so interlocked and so complex that if it all goes down......how would you bring it all back? They talked of a cyber attack or a coordinated attack on the grid. He said major substations and transformers are dependent upon China and could take at least 2 years to get parts. It's not a flip of the switch kind of system and we don't have stockpiles to replace components and software. It could take up to 5 years to get everything back online. He said he is certain that this will happen within the next 2 years.

Once poeple think there's no help coming, bad things start to happen. According to William: EMP.....first 5 minutes how many people die? A couple hundred thousand will die due to planes falling from the sky. Hospitals and nursing homes would be next on the line of people to die quickly. People who rely on medications for life would be next. He likened America to a jenga tower right now. Glen said the WEF has predicted a critical failure within the next 2 years.

I thought it was interesting that he was on Glen Beck. I don't typically listen to Beck, but I listen to Bongino and when I turned on the radio this morning he was on. Both Glen and William have something to gain by the fear mongering. It sells John's books (mentioned that he has another one coming out in August) and sells Glen's advertisers products.

All of that said, they do provoke a great discussion for those who haven't really thought this through. At a bare minimum, it should make people consider the usefulness of stocked water, meds, food, shelter, propane, etc. It makes me wonder if this will flip a switch in the head of anyone. Glen has warned of things happening before and pushes perparedness, so I'm not sure his audience found this discussion particularly alarming.
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i liked the first book but the next two were not as good. the last(3rd) was the worst. well worth reading

want to read another in a longer series..read the borrowed world by franklin horton theres no reason it not a tv series. i liked jericho but borrowed world could be fantastic...IF..they keep hollyweird out of of editing room.

one second after..the guy left out some very critical things in book and no i wont go into it. but i know the area pretty well. more when i was younger than now. but he missed critical things or just didnt know about them. i dont know which and even maybe didnt want to bring them to light in a book..i hope its the latter.

a big part of story is about not having insulin and or it going bad. well i want to ask him why didnt they go to camper sales or where ever and get a 3WAY refrigerator. a car battery and solar panel or three would run it.not to mention how long a 1500 gallon buried propane tank would last for just it. years and years.my buddy has a 1500 gl tank. it hurts to fill it he said...lol

after doing more research into emp and seeing guys do testing of simulated emp on solar i believe emp is not going to effect everything and its going to depend on location and source. much research does NOT take into consideration deflection effects especially in case of terrain.
 
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Some things the Doom and Gloom stories and books don't really consider is the adaptablilty of man. Yes, I know that some will die in their mom and dads basement clutching their joystick. But, there are still many of us 'middle aged' people out there who remember how it used to be, and it wasn't all that bad. Yes, we had power and indoor plumbing, but we also spent the vast majority of our days outdoors.....doing stuff. We didn't expect or want uncle Sam to solve our problems. The simple life wasn't so bad, even though we did have modern day luxuries like power.

It made me think though.....am I prepared for a 2 year power outage? Honestly, I'm really not sure. But I do think I have the basics covered. It sure wouldn't be fun, but I think it would be doable. How about a 5 year outage? I'm truly not sure. A lot of things in this world would certainly have changed in that period of time, so I guess it would depend on where we were as a nation after 2 years of no power. If security wasn't a major concern and we had our close friends and neighbors all working together, then I think we'd be OK. Sometimes the worst of times brings out the best in people. I wouldn't depend on it, but that is a possibility.
 
dademoss said:
Can I skip the 2 middle ones that weren't so good and just read 4?
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i would read the middle two books before...thats because i dont know details of book 4. theres probably elements to it you need some background on to grasp all of the story..maybe..maybe not. i think so.

the 2 and 3 books are not bad per say it just elements of story are not my cup of tea. things brought up in it are for story and certain things i know of area were overlooked as i mentioned in other post. sorry to be vague but not open to point certain things out. they are worth the read...i am over critical of things at times.

maybe go read reviews for each book and not series to get a better feel and broader view than just my simplified view.

all these books have a place in my library and the 4th will too. they will never be thrown out by any means.
 
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