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I don't remember "Geek999" but "Peaches" was....interesting.
 

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Before I came to this Forum I, and many others here belonged to another Forum that had as Members Two People, One Named "Peaches" the other "Geek999". These Two were the most Annoying, most Disagreeable People I have had the Displeasure of Interacting with. They would ask a Question as though they really wanted to learn, and then what ever Answers were given wasn't quite good enough. They were Interested only in Arguing, Demeaning, and in many Cases Slandering certain Members because they were LEO, and because they Hated the Police. So, with all that being said, when I come across a Person who says "Yeah But" to every Suggestion offered, and has a reason for why you're wrong and he's right, I begin to suspect his Motives. Maybe I'm Wrong, I've been Wrong before, but these are my Reasons for Opting out, and as you can see, not just a case of Frustration.

Ewww, Geek n Peaches sound like attention whores. Mean little twits, too.
 

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Grizzleyette That is Funny, Thanks I needed to Laugh. Sometimes I forget to do that.

I think I can help you remember! Warning:...sometimes I can be hilari-ass, tho.

But I will try not to go all New Orleans-style Cajun on you. (Insert a raccoon here instead of this chicken) ----> dancing chicken
 

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Don't farmers already apply anti-parasite measures to their calves, that don't cause these kind of problems? How many times are these applied a week?

And although, I do enjoy hunting I hate to break it to you, but coyotes have an evolutionary measurement exactly against a thinning population: They breed fast, a ton faster. That's why, despite 500.000 +/- being killed yearly in the USA annually, the coyote population is still growing. And to add salt to the wound, killing all coyotes doesn't just increase to population, it leaves room for those problem coyotes, that are the worst of the problem.

That's why, I believe, we need to condition them to fear and understand livestock and humans.
A jenny will " stick to its hide " till it leaves the pasture. Our jenny would put up with our dogs but no other carnavour in here pasture, she even kicked in a quarter panel on a cadilac once because she didn't reconize the mans car.

Below a jenny killed a wolf for killing her baby.

 

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That was awesome!!!
Never underestimate the power of an angry ass!:eek:
:D Notice everytime she looked at her dead baby she'd go back bite and stomp the wolf again.

We had a jenny and was goingto raise guard donks. Going to call our place 'Sassy Ass Acres 'but fate had other plans for us. I love a smass ass had a couple in my life.
 

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:D Notice everytime she looked at her dead baby she'd go back bite and stomp the wolf again...
I loved when she picked it up in her teeth and slung it.
I could swear I heard her say...
"Get up you bastid! I'm not done killing you yet!:mad:"
 

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I loved when she picked it up in her teeth and slung it.
I could swear I heard her say...
"Get up you bastid! I'm not done killing you yet!:mad:"
She was so hurt she wanted to kill it again. Donks aare very emotionaal at times. Mine would put her head on my chest and just brey and cry .They are so smart.
 

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So I am way late to the party on this thread LOL. But after reading the whole thing, i just wanted to confirm no one has any deterrent ideas for coyotes that actually work?
Before I apply a more permanent solution.
I don't much like killing things I am not going to use.
Internet has a bunch of humane suggestions that are just not going to either work or are not feasible for me. They are getting a whole lot bolder here suddenly and I am in no mood to loose dogs or chickens to them.
 

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So I am way late to the party on this thread LOL. But after reading the whole thing, i just wanted to confirm no one has any deterrent ideas for coyotes that actually work?
Before I apply a more permanent solution.
I don't much like killing things I am not going to use.
Internet has a bunch of humane suggestions that are just not going to either work or are not feasible for me. They are getting a whole lot bolder here suddenly and I am in no mood to loose dogs or chickens to them.
Pretty sure 'humane' is a bitch to make work anyway, and the oversize coyotes that live where you do add to the problem. A non-humane solution that worked in Europe for centuries was/is the sheep dog. Not the herder, the guarder. The German Shepherd and Great Dane may be too far out-bred to work, but the Gran Pyrenees(sp) is still a working dog in Catalonia. [I'm speculating here; if I actually had an "area of expertise", this wouldn't be it.]
 

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If you don't want to trap or shoot them then electric fencing and LSG's are the only other options I can think of.
 

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Shoot it is then. I did suspect that was the answer, I just like to make sure I'm not being ignorant first. I can't do electric fences, and I have too many dogs already. Not adding more right now. Trapping is only allowed at certain times.
 

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We have barbed wire fencing and ran a strand of electric above and below the bottom strand of barbed wire. It keeps the hogs out too.
 

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Shoot it is then. I did suspect that was the answer, I just like to make sure I'm not being ignorant first. I can't do electric fences, and I have too many dogs already. Not adding more right now. Trapping is only allowed at certain times.
Shooting them is something I have read articles about. Those articles say that it mostly doesn't work. The coyotes you don't shoot respond by raising bigger litters - and apparently are not persuaded to go elsewhere.
 

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Shooting them is something I have read articles about. Those articles say that it mostly doesn't work. The coyotes you don't shoot respond by raising bigger litters - and apparently are not persuaded to go elsewhere.
Perhaps so, and I have read similar things. Seems much debate. But for me, fact of the matter is I simply do not have the electricity to run an electric fence. Same with strobe lights and electric noise makers. I am open to suggestions other than shooting them, but if they think my animals are dinner, I'm going to have to stop them.
 

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They may not "go elsewhere" but they learn where to not hunt. When you slack off they will come back you you must keep the pressure on them. Its a never ending battle, like keeping deer out of your garden.
 

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Perhaps so, and I have read similar things. Seems much debate. But for me, fact of the matter is I simply do not have the electricity to run an electric fence. Same with strobe lights and electric noise makers. I am open to suggestions other than shooting them, but if they think my animals are dinner, I'm going to have to stop them.
How good are you with snares? I keep hearing about a guy in the next county who has had pretty good luck. Coyotes are very smart with an excellent sense of smell. I'm not sure what this guy is doing that no one else is...

In my state it is open season on coyotes, meaning take them any way you can, where ever you can. What I have heard of being done with success is bait and poison. Neighbors will band together, everyone in a 20 or 30sq mile area will chain or pen up their pets for a few weeks. Then, thousands of acres get baited. This method isn't clean or efficient and the risk of the wrong critters being harmed is high. But... it does make a big impact.
 

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How good are you with snares? I keep hearing about a guy in the next county who has had pretty good luck. Coyotes are very smart with an excellent sense of smell. I'm not sure what this guy is doing that no one else is...

In my state it is open season on coyotes, meaning take them any way you can, where ever you can. What I have heard of being done with success is bait and poison. Neighbors will band together, everyone in a 20 or 30sq mile area will chain or pen up their pets for a few weeks. Then, thousands of acres get baited. This method isn't clean or efficient and the risk of the wrong critters being harmed is high. But... it does make a big impact.
Yep, the problem with poison baits has always been the 'collateral damage'. Many non-coyote, non-pest wild critturs will take a bait of meat. Also, according to some predator specialist scientists, the most intelligent coyotes won't take the bait, so their use improves the species' intelligence over time.
 

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