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California Officials declare Ham Radio no longer a benefit

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  1. Oct 11, 2019 at 7:51 AM #1

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    Well of course they did. It's California.


    https://offgridsurvival.com/california-officials-declare-ham-radio-no-longer-a-benefit/

     
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  2. Oct 11, 2019 at 8:58 AM #2

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    That's really bad news
     
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  3. Oct 11, 2019 at 9:12 AM #3

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    Back in the 70s I was using Ham Radio ..WB9VRO.
    It's a great thing in so many ways.

    They are so stupid to shut down a great thing.

    Maybe they will fall into the ocean and the Ham Radio system Could have saved them..
    Wouldn't that be ironic.

    Jim
     
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  4. Oct 11, 2019 at 9:15 AM #4

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    Hams will find a way. String a wire out their second story window. It'll happen.
     
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  5. Oct 11, 2019 at 9:47 AM #5

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    Califunoins may say no, but Fed law sayez yes and the fed is in charge of the airwaves.
     
  6. Oct 11, 2019 at 1:43 PM #6

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    Good point. We used that argument for a large tower in our (liberal) little community. It worked. Nobody even notices our antenna.
     
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  7. Oct 11, 2019 at 2:08 PM #7

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    In fact last year the FED past a law that gave licensed Ham operators the right to erect radio antenna even in neighborhoods with restrictive covenants and they cant do nuthin bout it.
     
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  8. Oct 11, 2019 at 2:10 PM #8

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    Ham radio is not, by its very nature, compatible with all-encompassing government. The Internet can be constrained and controlled - witness China. Ham radio can only be free - or maybe blocked by interference(?). It can't be a Government Organ.

    With all those satellites sailing around up there, a ham station might be difficult or impossible to conceal. Even making it mobile and physically concealable might be impossible, I dunno. Freedom seems to get more difficult all the time.
     
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  9. Oct 11, 2019 at 2:15 PM #9

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    The thing with Ham is the antenna need only be cheap wire cut to the right length to listen or transmit and the transceiver could be MANY yards away.
     
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  10. Oct 11, 2019 at 2:15 PM #10

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    California Officials declare Ham Radio no longer a benefit; Demands Ham radio repeater infrastructure to be Removed

    False headlines. HAM equipment on public property is now subject to fee licensing .
     
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  11. Oct 11, 2019 at 3:39 PM #11

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    The the email says repeater owners must pay $2500 per application to cover analysis as well as between $3000 to $5000 per year. That's a pretty hefty colo fee when you consider equipment, power and maintenance are already paid for by the repeater owner. Hopefully, these repeaters can be set up on private land without interruption of services.

    It would be interesting to know if CA allows commercial use of public land/infrastructure. Does Verizon pay a fee to use water towers to establish good cell phone coverage? If so, at least they're being consistent. If not, there's a lawsuit in there somewhere.
     
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  12. Oct 11, 2019 at 5:36 PM #12

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    I know nothing about California but in the three closest states I know cell providers lease the area they put antennas on. If it is on a building they pay for the square footage and access. For free standing towers they lease the land and right of way.
     
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  13. Oct 11, 2019 at 9:53 PM #13

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    Same thing around here.
     
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  14. Oct 12, 2019 at 5:15 AM #14

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    So as usual the kalaiforna govt. is looking for revenue.
     
  15. Oct 12, 2019 at 2:09 PM #15

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    How many times can those lefties shoot themselves in the foot before it becomes painful?
     
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    Oh, it's probably painful, but they are habituated to passing the blame.
     
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  17. Oct 12, 2019 at 5:44 PM #17

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    I'm sure that they want the cash but I suspect they also want control. A communication system outside the control of government weakens their control when they decide to take over all news and communication. I perceive this as an early step to prepare for 1984.
     

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