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As soon as I get a new flux capacitor for my time machine I am going to travel back in time, and buy some, then sell it 4 months ago...

Yeah, tell me about it.. Had a guy who was wanting to buy some 'surplus Medical Laser' equipment off me in like April 2014 - Offered me 5 Full Bitcoins for the two Lasers.. (yah..) And I (being the Pragmatic-to-a-Fault guy I am.. :rolleyes: ) turned it down, because 'Aaahh, sorry.. Landlady won't take BTC, sorry.. ' (shop rent was about $3500. / mo. at that juncture..) ...Soooo, yeah.. Derp. +_+

Oh well, it only would be worth ~$300 grand right now.. <cry> Would've bought a hellavuh 'BOL', that's fer sure.. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

PS - but No - I would Not 'hedge' with it, Long term.. One way or another.. It's all gonna go bye-bye, at some point..

jd
 
Yeah, tell me about it.. Had a guy who was wanting to buy some 'surplus Medical Laser' equipment off me in like April 2014 - Offered me 5 Full Bitcoins for the two Lasers.. (yah..) And I (being the Pragmatic-to-a-Fault guy I am.. :rolleyes: ) turned it down, because 'Aaahh, sorry.. Landlady won't take BTC, sorry.. ' (shop rent was about $3500. / mo. at that juncture..) ...Soooo, yeah.. Derp. +_+

Oh well, it only would be worth ~$300 grand right now.. <cry> Would've bought a hellavuh 'BOL', that's fer sure.. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

PS - but No - I would Not 'hedge' with it, Long term.. One way or another.. It's all gonna go bye-bye, at some point..

jd
Buh bye.

Ben
 
I've had a little success in crypto - my strategy has been to keep my ear to the ground (forums, YouTube channels, etc.) for up and coming tokens that could be had for pennies. I've gotten lucky a couple of times, and have been able to pull my initial investment out with a sizeable balance still left to grow slowly over time. I am really diversely spread in the crypto field, I figure one of the dozens of coins/tokens I hold now could be the next bitcoin. I'm a fan of the Stellar ecosystem, it's easy to invest & trade with less overhead than others. The sad thing is, I have two bitcoins locked behind a forgotten password from back in the day when it was about a dollar a coin, and I made an $8 purchase online - but could only buy bitcoin in increments for $10. Someday I'll remember that password and get a nice pickup with the proceeds or something!
 
I have gold & silver, gems, land & timber, but no cryptocurrency.
LOL - I have way more invested in dried beans than I do in crypto, let alone precious metals, seeds or even TP ;) It's a fun diversion that's pure speculation. It's cool to see a $50 investment balloon to $1K - you just need to be chill when it happens the other way around as well. I stopped eating fast food and put what I would have spent on a burger into crypto every once in a while, but it's definitely not my major investment vehicle. I hold dollars worth of investment in lots of different coins. For example, I have about 15,000 Dodge Token which is currently worth about $20 USD. I probably paid about $10 for it to start, so I've already doubled my $ - but if it "moons" and explodes like bitcoin did back in the day and goes to $5K each, I'll be sitting pretty on 75 Million! Is it a super long shot, but it's a fun hobby.
 
LOL ... It's a fun diversion that's pure speculation. It's cool to see a $50 investment balloon to $1K - you just need to be chill when it happens the other way around as well.
Yes, the new coins would be like buying a lottery ticket. I only buy "established" coins like Bitcoin and Ethereum. (I'm a responsible crypto buyer. ;)) So, I hope my odds are improved, if only for smaller gains, non-lottery-style gains. I know some predict Bitcoin will go to the moon, but people say that about gold as well; I ignore anyone who says that. I don't believe I will get rich doing this, because I won't put in enough money to get rich. I'm not "all in" on cryptocurrency (or even on gold). It is just fun to dabble in it.

And, it is nice to have another small bit of wealth in a non-USD, pseudo-international cross-border denomination...sort of. I use a US exchange, so it is not really international for me. But, you don't have to declare your bitcoin when you go through customs, because you are not carrying it with you, and yet you can still theoretically get to it any time.

And, it is not as heavy as beans...and it is easier to trade in some ways (absent a total TEOTWAWKI event). Although, I obviously still have the beans, too!

I should be putting more thought into my digital cash/bonds/stock positions...but for now, cryptocurrency is fun. Once BTC and ETH start going significantly above where I have bought, I will likely stop buying and just watch...and focus on more practical things. But for now, on the dips, I am constantly tempted to double down. On the first big upswing, I may pull out my initial investment. We'll see.
I stopped eating fast food and put what I would have spent on a burger into crypto every once in a while, but it's definitely not my major investment vehicle.
That is how I got into metals. I literally would think, "If I don't get a fast food lunch today, I will put that towards silver." Every paycheck, I pulled out money from the bank for my lunches, and every lunch I didn't buy allowed me to buy some dimes of silver. I'd go to the coin store every other week, and buy a little silver...which allowed me to get to know them, and them me...and helped me learn the metals game. I even gave up drinking alcohol for a while, but I kept pretending I was buying beer and booze, so each Friday, or any time I thought about going to the liquor store, I would go home and put the cash I would have spent on booze into in a drawer to be spent later on silver. I turned my temptation into a savings opportunity, and gradually, I started saving more and more. And, I developed the discipline to save until I could make bigger metals purchases, until I disiplined myself (and got my wife used to me hiding cash away) enough to buy gold. It was a gradual process that took years, but I feel better about my current position now that I have gone through it. I tell this story so people know that savings is possible even when you might think it isn't; small steps can lead to a more comfortable future.
 
My nephew is making a killing on cryptocurrency right now.
I have no idea what he's doing but his initial $1000 investment is over $30,000 the last time I talked to him. He seems to know when to buy and when to sell.
He also knows he can lose it all in a second but he's young, single, and well employed so it's not a problem.
 
My nephew is making a killing on cryptocurrency right now.
Heh. If you got in early, you are a genius, no matter what.

I have a nephew who is big into crypto as well. He is all about the technology behind it, and the practical uses of it (which I gather are still somewhat speculative, or at least unrealized in the business world...which is why he thinks we are still in the early stages of cryptocurrency). I use my recent crypto interest as a tool to stay in touch with my nephew. We text every once in a while about it...since it is something he is interested in, it is an easy way for me to connect with him. I'm at an age where I look for small ways to stay connected to distant family. (My nephew is several states away.)
 
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Me too but, how about fertilizer? Pellet and water soluble types? It's a good thing to have. Also metal stove pipe. I doesn't last too long so you need to be able to replace it.
You have animals, right?
Chickens & rabbits are meat/eggs & manure/compost is a very important side product, leaves, hay & grass. When push comes to shove, human waste can be used, pigs & goats also.
I have about 200 pounds of store bought fertilizer, but I do not find it to be sustainable or worth the space needed to keep it dry. This is my opinion & everyone has to decide what is important enough for there space. I could spend $2500.00 to store 10 tons of fertilizer, plus the cost of the fertilizer, but animals are cheaper to keep & use their waste.
 
I just bought and set up a "hard wallet," and pulled most of my cryptocurrency from the Coinbase exchange into my Ledger Nano X wallet shown below.
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Now, I can store the Ledger Nano X "wallet" in my safe, and my cryptocurrency cannot be hacked.

They say you can't hack Bitcoin...but a crypto exchange (like Coinbase, where I have been keeping my cryptocurrency) can be hacked like any web site or web accessible server. Before I did this, Coinbase held the keys to my crypto, and I only had their promise to give it to me if I asked them to give it to me, and faith in their security efforts to keep those keys safe. Now, my crypto (or, the keys to my crypto) will now be in my wallet, disconnected from the internet (and from hackers), and my wallet will now be in my safe. I can reconnect to the internet when I want to spend them or exchange them for fiat currency.

I have to say, this crypto stuff is very complicated, and I still haven't figured it all out. I just thought I would post an update on my efforts to figure this stuff out, in case anyone was interested.
 
Yeah, tell me about it.. Had a guy who was wanting to buy some 'surplus Medical Laser' equipment off me in like April 2014 - Offered me 5 Full Bitcoins for the two Lasers.. (yah..) And I (being the Pragmatic-to-a-Fault guy I am.. :rolleyes: ) turned it down, because 'Aaahh, sorry.. Landlady won't take BTC, sorry..
They didn't look like these 5 did they?
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Those are actually real, only the imaginary ones are worth a ton of money. :(
 
Gaaaah, rub it in, why doncha.. ;) No, he was offering 'BTC', which is Why I 'rejected it', because the Landlady would Not have accepted that, back then.. Now? Pff, I'm sure she would, double-time..

And, If he Had offered me Those ( ^ ) even That would have seemed (at the time..) to be a 'better offer'. Too bad I was not 'foresighted enough' to see what BTC would end up doing.. I could (and Would..) sell those 5 BTCs - Now - Immediately, and Get that, ie: 40 Acres on a Creek / Well, etc, up in Montana, etc, and Get the frick Outta here..

..but alas, all we've got is our little 1.6 Acres in NorCal - Beautiful as it is - but still 'behind Zommie lines'.. Oh well... :rolleyes:

jd
 
I just bought and set up a "hard wallet,".. Now, my crypto (or, the keys to my crypto... will now be in my safe. I can reconnect to the internet when I want to spend them or exchange them for fiat currency...

Wise move, and Well Done, Congrats.. :cool: However...

...In the 'Some Food for Thought' category - for Me, the part I Bolded, above, is still the 'wild card for the Future' - that Could end-up the 'Achilles Heel', of this all, so.. For Me, personally, I'd 'cash out' - While - that cash can Still Buy Tangibles (like Land / LTS / Ammo, etc) as Those days are coming to an End (see 'CBDC Risks' (~18:28) of This Must Watch expose of the 'WEF' (aka 'Real Life SPECTRE' :mad: and its Influencing 'White Papers' on Crypto vs CBDCs, etc..

...Yah. :mad:

..As I quipped elsewhere - IMHO - Buy ALL the 'LTS' Food / Water / Solar, etc etc etc... and Any Defense Items / Ammo you even Think you Might need - Now - while you still Can, because 'Post-CBDC' institution? You ain't buying 💩 that they don't "Allow" you to.. (which will be Zero for anyone who doesn't 'tow the Party line'..) :mad:

God, I just Cannot Wait - as Tough as it Is - to be living in the Woods.. +_+
jd
 
Gaaaah, rub it in, why doncha.. ;) No, he was offering 'BTC', which is Why I 'rejected it', because the Landlady would Not have accepted that, back then.. Now? Pff, I'm sure she would, double-time..

And, If he Had offered me Those ( ^ ) even That would have seemed (at the time..) to be a 'better offer'. Too bad I was not 'foresighted enough' to see what BTC would end up doing.. I could (and Would..) sell those 5 BTCs - Now - Immediately, and Get that, ie: 40 Acres on a Creek / Well, etc, up in Montana, etc, and Get the frick Outta here..

..but alas, all we've got is our little 1.6 Acres in NorCal - Beautiful as it is - but still 'behind Zommie lines'.. Oh well... :rolleyes:

jd
Now now, tell the truth. You would have sold the 2014 Bitcoins in 2016 and bragged to all your friends about making a $3,200 profit!:woo hoo:

Don't feel so bad. My older brother was a baseball card collector when he was a kid.
He chewed a lot of gum:rolleyes:.
He vividly remembers having both the Mickey Mantle and Babe Ruth rookie cards in his collection.
50 years later I watched him feverishly tearing his childhood bedroom to shreds looking for them.
Since I am always the bad guy, I reminded him that all of us kids attached cards to our bikes with clothes-pins to make that 'motorcycle sound' on the spokes.
He found zero cards :mad:.
 
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Personally, I consider "investing" in crypto about as financially astute as "investing" in lotto tickets. It's the same mindset that thinks the number of followers an Instagram "Influencer" has equates to high stature in the business world.
 
To answer the original question, NO, I do not invest in Cryptocurrency. I don't understand it, and I do not want to learn about it. At my stage in life I am trying to reduce risk; not increase it. I am happy with my modest returns.
 
I mine crypto daily because I happen to have the hardware to do it. But I'd never invest in it.
 
As I understand it crypto has dipped, so it is good or bad according to how you look at it.
 
I got an email ask me not to take money from my investment to invest in crypto.
So A lot of people are moving money.
I am living on on about 50,000. a year & I am still making more than I spend.
Would I invest in it in 2011, if I could go back yes, even 2015, but that ship has sailed.
I am doing well, so no wild schemes for me.
 
As I understand it crypto has dipped, so it is good or bad according to how you look at it.
Dips are good if you are a buyer. Dips are bad only if you are near cashing out. Same with metals. Same with the stock market. Same with inflation. I'm a buyer, so I get excited when prices go down.

I've got something like 0.2% of my resting wealth (money I'm not using) in actual cryptocurrency. Seems a reasonable amount to wager at the crypto-casino.
 
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Same here.

Nudge nudge wink wink

Ben
Me too.
I won't lie, I'm a buzzard sitting patiently on the fence around the stock market waiting for some 'live-stock' to stumble and fall.
If the price nosedives to where the dividend equals 8% , I will swoop in. ;)
 
I mine crypto daily because I happen to have the hardware to do it. But I'd never invest in it.
After watching this....



Very long and deep video of a couple of Millennials talking about the Fourth Turning...

The Princess and I have changed our mind about Bitcoin. Not to make big profits or as competition for gold and silver but as an alternative to the US dollar in times of inflation like now.

What changed for me was realizing that Bitcoin is independent of central banks and their funny buisness.

So what kind of hardware is required to mine Bitcoin?

Ben
 
So what kind of hardware is required to mine Bitcoin?
Good question! I have no idea, honestly. I have a few ancient ASIC scypt miners that are good for mining litecoin (which can be converted to other currencies). My understanding is you would want a fairly high-end GPU on a dedicated PC and that GPU will set you back well over $1000. So you will need to determine how much you can make per unit of time and when you can break even, after which time you can start to earn money.

Let me refine my previous statement. If I didn't already have the hardware for mining, I wouldn't go looking today to buy mining hardware, nor would I invest in crypto.

That doesn't mean you can't do it and that it can't be profitable fairly quickly. Just that I'm not a good advisor in this. I welcome others to chime in, though.
 

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