First Aid Kit or Trauma Kit?

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    https://darkangelmedical.com/blog/first-aid-kit-or-trauma-kit/?mc_cid=8bdc3fb1b9&mc_eid=a1d5137709
     
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    We keep a purchased one in the tornado shelter....
     
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    Every car has a first aid kit, and a trauma kit. The big first aid box at home has the trauma stuff in the lift out tray, and first aid supplies underneath.
     
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    I have a minor first aid kit that I keep handy in the event of minor everyday type injuries. I also have a decent first aid kit in my GHB with a few additional trauma supplies added (hemostatic agent, occlusive chest dressings, and some larger dressings). At home, I have a very comprehensive trauma kit. I don't carry the trauma kit with me around town because we have an excellent EMS service here. The kit is "just in case" EMS is not available or if I am going somewhere without EMS services.
     
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    I have a full EMT bag in my closet for my family, a full trauma kit I carry in my range bag, and a workplace first aid kit at my home, where I could care for most of my neighbors if the situation arises to this level. I also carry two large hand made first aid kits in my car, which include yellow body blankets, courtesy of my old police department.
     
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    We have a trauma bag that hubby got when he was his stations EMT. We've replaced things as we use them or think they are getting to be to old. I also have a small pharmacy in my bathroom for everything else and small basic first aid kits in each vehicle and squeezed in the backpack I keep my portable nebulizer in.
     
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    If you are an "outdoor" type it should be both - never one or the other. First aid kits are used more often but if you do any activity where traumatic damage can happen that first aid kit might not be enough.
    I was showing my trauma kit to one of the folk at the range and he convinced the board to get three for the range. The range doesn't have a first aid kit but they now have three trauma kits..??!!
     
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    I'd like to see a list of what y'all have in your kits.
     
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    @Patchouli I set ours up at home as first responders kit and have a smaller one in the car. When we go out cutting firewood or on country drives we are quite often out of mobile range so we take the first responders kit with us.

    I would recommend looking online at what a first responders kit contains and buy the contents yourself as it is far cheaper than buying a ready made one and the same with a basic first aid kit most of the time too at least here in Australia anyway.
     
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    This thread made me check what I keep in my backpack at work. My employer provides a basic first aid kit in every vehicle, so I pack light with mine:

    Aspirin and Ibuprofen. (I end up giving most of that away to guys who have hangovers...)
    30 band aids
    2 large bandages
    A roll of stretchy first aid tape
    Single use, tear open packets of burn gel, poison ivy gel, and insect bite gel
    Bug repellent wipes
    Fingernail clippers
    Rolaids
    Inhaler

    This goes with me in my pack, wherever I travel. The only thing I'm missing right now is first aid gloves.
     
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    The cars, daypack and my scooter have basic first aid supplies, similar to the J&J. They also have a trauma kit with a quick clot pad, Israeli bandage, tourniquet, gloves, scissors and a space blanket.
     

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    The big kit in the shelter room : https://dademoss.smugmug.com/First-aid-kit
    Outside compartment is space blankets and a couple triangle bandage, top tray is a tourniquet, shears, 3 Israeli bandages, and 3 Olaes bandages.

    The rest of the contents are in the pictures:

    I need to add some bug repellant, hand sanitizer and soap.
     
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    This is a comprehensive list of our "first aid" kit for home emergencies. You can add to or detract from it to fit your needs. If you have kids or pets you need to add for them.
    First-Aid Kit

    In any emergency a family member or you yourself may suffer an injury. If you have these basic first aid supplies you are better prepared to help your loved ones when they are hurt.
    Knowing how to treat minor injuries can make a difference in an emergency. You may consider taking a first aid class, but simply having the following things can help you stop bleeding, prevent infection and assist in decontamination.
    • Several pairs of Latex or other sterile gloves if you are allergic to Latex (nitrile)

    • Sterile dressings to stop bleeding

    • Cling wrap ( to treat sucking chest wound)

    • Cleansing agent/soap and antibiotic towelettes

    • Antibiotic ointment (honey and sugar) to add to ointment for better healing

    • Burn ointment (water soluble/honey)

    • Adhesive bandages in a variety of sizes (include butterfly bandages)

    • Eye wash solution to flush the eyes or as general decontaminate (1 tsp boric acid in 1 cup boiled water)

    • Thermometer

    • Prescription medications you take every day such as insulin, heart medicine and asthma inhalers. You should periodically rotate medicines to account for expiration dates.

    • Prescribed medical supplies such as glucose and blood pressure monitoring equipment and supplies
    Non-prescription drugs:

    • Aspirin and non-aspirin pain reliever

    • Anti-diarrhea medication

    • Antacid

    • Laxative

    • Stool softener

    • Oral hydration fluid (or kit containing ½ tsp salt, 6 tsp sugar, ¼ tsp of salt substitute) Package dry ingredients in sealed bags and add to 1 liter purified water (store enough for four liters per day for 2 weeks)
    Other first aid supplies:
    • Scissors

    • Tweezers (hemostat and forceps)

    • Tube of petroleum jelly and/or other lubricant (KY jelly is water soluble)
    Supplies for Unique Needs
    • Denture needs

    • Contact lenses and supplies

    • Extra eye glasses
    Ask your doctor about storing prescription medications such as heart and high blood pressure medication, insulin and other prescription drugs.
    If you live in a cold climate, you must think about warmth. It is possible that you will not have heat. Think about your clothing and bedding supplies. Be sure to include one complete change of clothing and shoes per person, including: Boots, Jacket or coat, Long pants, Long sleeve shirt, and multiple pairs of socks and underwear. Mummy bag sleeping bags rated for -20F)




    Added medical supplies:

    Wrist, arm, finger and leg splints

    Eye pads

    Mole skin

    Cold and hot pack or rubber hot water bottle

    Large wound bandages (disposable diapers, Kotex pads and tampons) sterile pads to stop bleeding)

    Ace Bandages

    Triangular bandages (multi-purpose)

    Alcohol and powdered bleach (pool shock)

    Powdered Alum (styptic for minor cuts)

    Tape ( ½, ¾, 1, 2, and 3 inch wide)

    Surgical rubber tubing (¼, 3/8, and ½” x 4 feet long)

    Tourniquet and constrictive bands

    Dust filter masks and filter respirators

    Personal water filter (life straw or similar)

    Curved needles and silk or linen thread (emergency suture kit)
     
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    Talking to my daughter on phone a few minutes ago. She is going through the change of life and doesn't want to take HP meds. But her BP was 170' 103 so I told her she needs to get water pills and that high is dangerous.
    I hear B-6 is acts as a duriretic. But she should take the script to get it down.
    So maybe add vitamin B-6 to the list?
     
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    i had already started a basic 1st aid kit for the home. Then i won one in a contest.in which.it's a better kit then the one i started.plus.nothing came out of it.both kits go with me,when ever i get into car to go anywhere.i added a compass/whistle/match storage compartment area.to the one i won.the whistle is just in case i need help,while in the woods.compass for direction.and waterproof matches just in case a fir is needed..i also plan on adding a tarp or pad.and a temporary shelter of some kind.this way i can get a injured person out of the weather if need be.be it heat.snow.or rain.untill the needed assistance shows up. .
     
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    People are forgetting to add CPR shields and gloves.

    If someone goes down and you have to administer CPR the worse thing that can happen to you is to contract an incurable disease or virus because you tried to save someone.
    They're cheap and come in a small velcro pouch that goes on your key ring.
    You can buy masks in adult and child sized that can go in the first aid or first responders kit. cpr.JPG
     
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    We have to take a yearly first aid/CPR / AED refresher every year at work. They always hand out new CPR mask like those. Good to have on hand.

    I keep a good supplied kit in each vehicle and have added a TQ & Isreali bandage & clotting gauze to them. I also keep TQ's /bandage/gauze combo in each GHB, Range bag, and chain saw bag. Those things are rarely used, but will save a life if needed. Are not very expensive either.
    at home I have a first responder bag that has way more in it than I have the skills to use. I do need to replenish the IV solutions in it.
     
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    In the book,that came with my new kit.is a detailed section about cpr.in which it not only tells how important it is to use something between the person in need of cpr.and the person giving cpr.but it also tells how to use a powder free glove as a CPR shield as well..
     
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    Thanks for that link jac.i got it bookmarked.

    I got to looking through my kit.nothing there for cpr.so i'll be looking through my 1st aid suppies,that i have in my totes.on account i remember having something for cpr.and,of course i'll have to clean it up first.then put it into a clean baggie..
     
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    TEOTWAWKI. Sorry folks. You get a bullet, pitch fork, bat to the head, compound fractured, etc...anything beyond basic first aid treatment, I'm sorry but you are dead as far as I'll be concerned. We are not able to prove a fully staffed medical emergency room with a Doctor on call including all needed pharmaceuticals. We will do what we can, but you and nature are on your own.

    The "Walking Dead" example of cutting off an infected leg, cauterizing the resulting wound and preventing infection, the odds are not practical. Worth trying? Depends if MAG has a secured location, man-hours and resources to see it though to the end.
     
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    My set up is strictly first aid. If you need gauze and tape, I'm ready, you need a surgeon, he better bring his own kit.
     
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    For the best deals on a TC3 bag try the gun shows. I have seen them fully loaded for anywhere from $150 to $200. The one in my link is empty.
     
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    Some large sterile trauma bandages would be helpful (remember that things like kotex are not sterile). Also helpful would be some #11 scalpel blades for lancing infections and removing very large splinters. The scalpel blades are packaged separately from the handles usually (or you can get disposable handles with the blade already attached, but I don't care for them much). The blades run a buck and change each, and the handles are also pretty cheap. Elastic bandages are also helpful in a trauma kit- can be used to help stabilize broken ribs, keep large dressings in place, and also used for compression dressings.
     
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    We have first aid kits for the basic needs.
    I am not qualified to provide more than the basics, like dademoss.
    Need a band aid for a cut finger or a splinter removed I can help.
    I do have some more advance items like scalpels and sterile sutures that were given to me when I worked at a hospital.
    It would have to be a no help will ever come situation before I even thought about using those.
    Blood glucose lancets also work good for removing splinters.
    A blood lancet is similar to a small scalpel but with a double-edged blade or needle.

    I need to get out all of my first aid kits and inventory them.
    It's been awhile and I really need to check, plus I'm not 100% sure where they all are.
     
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    Queston for those that know.I have some WoundSeal powder that i had forgotten about .in which it expired 02/2017..is it still good?or am i better off replacing it?
     
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    Replace it but keep it for a back up?
     
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    That's a idea.but it'd be kept for me only.if i go that route.on account i won't take a chance with it,when it comes to someone else..
     

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