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I saw this article, maybe linked in SurvivalBlog. I thought it was interesting. It is the season to get your flu shot, if you get them.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/09...are-tactics-unfold-skip-the-vaccine-eat-eggs/

As Flu Scare Tactics Unfold, Skip The Vaccine, Eat Eggs
By Bill Sardi

September 24, 2018

As the Earth begins to tilt away from the sun in winter, North America prepares for the seasonal spread of influenza. The annual flu scare promulgated by public health agencies is now underway. The public is told: “Next flu pandemic could be ‘DEADLIER than Spanish flu’ – wiping out 400 million across the globe,” say news reports.

Given recent evidence that news agencies spread fake news for political purposes, one would think by now the public would have caught onto this scare tactic as the Centers For Disease Control serves as a shill for vaccine manufacturers.

The news reports admit influenza viruses are unstable and rapidly mutate. But they never say they rapidly mutate into less deadly strains mid-flu season. Got to sell millions of doses of flu vaccine or they go unused.

Even worse, the public may be coerced to inoculate against the flu even though public health agencies know beforehand the vaccine will be ineffective.

Flu vaccines are produced in chicken eggs that are injected with flu strains predicted to circulate in the population in the next flu season. But this slow process of producing antibodies to a group of flu viruses in eggs is subject to mutation over the months the vaccine is being produced in the eggs, so the vaccine may not actually target the flu strains predicted to be in circulation. That means health authorities know in advance whether the vaccine will be effective or not but still market it under the guise it will provide what is called herd immunity. But for that to occur, 70% of the population needs to undergo vaccination. Only about 45% of the population actually chooses to get a flu shot.

Should such a calamity occur (a worldwide flu pandemic), a noted flu expert says “modern medicine would not be able to protect us in the face of a new pandemic.” The public is told “starvation, medicine supplies running low, energy systems crippling under the pressure and the collapse of the global economy if a flu pandemic was to hit again.” That deadly threat would come only every 40 years or so when a large mutation in the flu virus would predictably occur.

Flu vaccine antagonist Peter Doshi of Johns Hopkins University says:

“Twenty years ago, in 1990, 32 million doses of influenza vaccine were available in the United States. Today around 135 million doses of influenza vaccine annually enter the US market, with vaccinations administered in drug stores, supermarkets—even some drive-throughs. This enormous growth has not been fueled by popular demand but instead by a public health campaign that delivers a straightforward, who-in-their-right-mind-could-possibly-disagree message: influenza is a serious disease, we are all at risk of complications from influenza, the flu shot is virtually risk free, and vaccination saves lives. Through this lens, the lack of influenza vaccine availability for all 315 million US citizens seems to border on the unethical… the threat of influenza appears overstated.”

Eggs: better than flu vaccines?

The quest for an alternative to vaccines may be at hand.

It was 1960. Dr. Alvin F. Coburn published a landmark report in British medical journal The Lancet. He had found cases of childhood rheumatic fever dramatically declined among children who ate eggs. Dr. Coburn had actually opened a clinic to treat rheumatic fever that had to be unexplainably shut down in 1955, which he associated with higher egg consumption among families under his observation. He also observed that children who developed rheumatic fever may have better diets rich in animal protein, milk, vitamins A and C, but did not eat more eggs. Another published survey reported children with rheumatic fever disliked eggs. The incidence of rheumatic fever was 2.8% among who ate the least eggs and only 0.6% among kids who ate the most eggs, almost a 500% difference.

So Dr. Coburn put eggs to the test. Here were the results:

Group A: normal diet, many nutritional deficiencies; recurrence in 11 of 29 children.

Group B: Children with reinforced diet with two eggs, milk, meat, butter, fish-liver oil (vitamin A); 3 of 35 had a recurrence.

Group C: Normal diet reinforced with powdered egg yolk only: 1 of 25 had a recurrence.

Dr. Coburn then launched a two-year study with half of the children given four egg yolks a day. Among 28 children who developed a sore throat who received no medication and no eggs, 10 experienced recurrence of symptoms. Among 28 children who ate egg yolk powder equivalent to 4 eggs a day, only 1 showed fresh rheumatic fever.
 
Egg immunoglobulins

Eggs contain ~100-150 milligrams of immunoglobulins. These are proteins in blood serum that are also known as antibodies that bind to antigens such as bacteria and viruses, resulting in their destruction. Whereas modern medicine has developed monoclonal antibody drugs that target a single cell receptor site, egg immunoglobulins are polyclonal antibodies, they have many targets and can protect against a broad variety of bacteria and viruses.

Egg yolk antibodies are being considered as an alternative to antibiotic drugs that induce germ resistance. Whereas multiple monoclonal antibodies may be required to deal with mutating flu viruses, polyclonal antibodies from eggs provide protection against the broad spectrum of influenza viruses. This would certainly overcome the problem of vaccines that don’t address rapidly mutated viruses. Store bought eggs have been reported to produce full recovery from the flu. The ramifications of this are obvious in the event of a flu pandemic. Eggs are available worldwide and are cheap.

About 40 grams (40,000 milligrams) of egg immunoglobulins (identified as IgY – immunoglobin y) is produced in a year’s production of eggs from a single chicken. These immunoglobulins also afford widespread protection from entero (intestinal) viruses such as polio and coxsackievirus as well as rotavirus that causes diarrhea in children and bacteria such as Salmonella, E. coli, Staphylococcus, tuberculosis, Clostridium difficile and H. pylori.

A super-egg can also be produced by injection of specific bacteria or viruses so that chicken eggs specifically address gastrointestinal infections. These super-eggs would serve as alternatives to antibiotics and even problematic vaccines. Egg immunoglobulins are already being used among farm animals in order to avoid use of problematic vaccines that induce germ resistance. Animals that eat from the ground frequently consume soil organisms that induce diarrhea. Egg antibodies can bind to these pathogens and nullify their adverse effect.

Egg yolk powder may become modern man’s preferred immune booster.

Dr. Coburn reported that eggs contain a sub-fraction called palmitoylethanolamide (PEA) that has potent anti-inflammatory activity. PEA is available today as a medical food and dietary supplement. It is extolled for its pain relieving, anti-inflammatory properties and has application for a variety of maladies including mental depression, autism, even the common cold. Overcoming the entrenched vaccine industry could only be accomplished by public demand and usage of egg yolk powder and/or PEA in preference over vaccines.

Readers can assess the terrible consequences of the mistaken cholesterol phobia that has been the ruling paradigm in modern medicine for the past four decades. With cholesterol phobia came a reduction in egg consumption and the obvious onset of new diseases (Crohn’s, autism, Clostridium difficile deaths, to name a few). Egg yolk powder is widely available for bulk purchase. PEA hasn’t hit store shelves yet but is sold as a dietary supplement online.

Should a predicted pandemic ensue, vaccines would predictably be in short supply, taking months to produce, while eggs would be readily available to save the planet from an otherwise historic calamity.
 
That is interesting!

Additionally, eggs are an incredible powerhouse of nutrition. Look at any chart of vitamins and other nutrients, and there in the column that contains the food sources of almost every vitamin, you will find eggs listed.

It has been discovered that the factory farmed battery eggs can cause a rise in blood cholesterol levels, where the organic pasture-raised eggs do not.
 
Although my work offers the flu vaccine free of charge to workers, I have never gotten one and rarely do I ever get sick. Maybe once every 3 years. I don't trust having something given to me that may or may not work. It's a guessing game for which you strand you will actually get. As for eggs, I'm not a breakfast eater so only get them when I use them in a recipe or pickled on top of salads. So far what I am doing has been working so why mess with a good thing.I

Mom gets them every year now, but she also gets sick every year. In her mind she is doing herself a favor, but I don't know. I kinda feel like what's the point. Isn't it better to create your own immune system and fight it the natural way as long as you are normally a healthy person?
 
Hubby has to have the flu vax every year at work. Its mandatory. He works at the local hospital and ALL employees HAVE to have it or else they're not allowed to come to work until they do get one. He doesn't get the flu but occasionally he'll catch a head cold that goes around the hospital every year. Thank the Lord thats the only thing he catches working there!
Myself I don't get one. I've had the flu 3 times in my life and thats all.
I am considering getting the pneumonia vax because I did smoke for 30 years. I stopped 15 years ago now. I'm still on the fence about the vax
 
I have never gotten a flu shot and don't plan to. It seems like most of the family that gets the shot get the flu anyway. I've not had anything significant in several years, maybe a day or two here or there when I felt like I was fighting something but that was it. I normally attack with goldenseal tincture right away, maybe some elderberry tincture, those are pretty powerful when used early on.

I didn't realize the protective qualities of eggs. We do eat a good many eggs here and I go out of my way to find eggs from chickens that are out on pasture. I don't have any of my own yet but am thinking that this coming year I'll get started with another flock.

I did end up getting a tetanus shot a year or two back. My wife and I were exposed to someone who had TB and the health department got very interested in testing us to make sure we didn't catch it. We did not. But over the course of dealing with them, they did ask whether we'd had tetanus shots recently. And when I mentioned that I think I had one in about 1983 or so, we decided that maybe, since I was already there, I should go ahead and get one.
 
I have never gotten the flu shot. I've had the flu a few times. You guys remember the years you've had it. Must have been memorable. 1986 was awful! I'm building up the herd immunity...you know, hanging around lots of people, with who knows what, builds up the immune system.
 
The vaccine the health department puts out every year is to cover the biggest threat. They have no way of knowing which virus will hit so they choose those that could do the most damage. Nature has not cooperated with the health department since they started the flu shot program. Some who get the shot get a reaction from the shot and get a mild case of the flu from the inoculation. I don't take flu shots but I have a very strong immune system. I have had three cases of the flu. One bout of flu put me in bed for three days. I wrapped myself in an electric blanket set on high. After three days of 105 temp I was back to normal. That was in 1971 and I haven't had the flu since. I rarely get sick at all. I did get the two inoculations for pneumonia but that and the ten year shots for tetanus are all I get.
It's great to be 68 and never get sick.
 
...It's great to be 68 and never get sick.

I don't recall my Dad ever being sick right up to when he was 91 and left us. Mom on the other hand tipped the law of averages in the opposite direction. Cancer, hernia, ruptured appendix, pneumonia multiple times, Parkinson's, in her mid 80's and managing.
 
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My dad was never sick until he was 49. He died from "non-specific" cancer in under six months. A tumor the size of a golf ball formed on his spine in one month. While he was having radiation treatment it grew to the size of a baseball. (two weeks of treatment) He died just three months later. Mom was left with the six younger kids (one girl and five boys) to raise. She lived another 35 years before dying of old age. She always had a smile and died in bed surrounded by her children. I was lucky to have spent that last year with her.
 
If I get a flu shot I get the flu. No shot, no flu. I have been crediting my 5000 units of vitamin D3 daily but I do eat my share of eggs.
 
If I get a flu shot I get the flu. No shot, no flu. I have been crediting my 5000 units of vitamin D3 daily but I do eat my share of eggs.
I take 5,000 units of D3 daily also. I've been eating granola with yogurt as breakfast for the summer. I'll have to start eating eggs again although I do like oatmeal in the winter with nuts and dried fruit. Might have to switch off and on lol
 
When I had pneumonia last winter my Dr didn't want me anywhere near the hospital. She said all the people dying of pneumonia were because of catching the flu at the same time. After 2 rounds of the pneumonia she insisted on the flu and pneumonia shots. Then I ended up with bronchitis.....:confused: last winter sucked.
 
When I had pneumonia last winter my Dr didn't want me anywhere near the hospital. She said all the people dying of pneumonia were because of catching the flu at the same time. After 2 rounds of the pneumonia she insisted on the flu and pneumonia shots. Then I ended up with bronchitis.....:confused: last winter sucked.
It's that time of year again. If you're over 55...
Get Your Flu Shot!
The flu kills people. It likes old people that have other health problems and very young people.

It's too easy to do and costs nothing for most.
I got mine Dammit! It's your turn!
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Remember Diphtheria, Polio, or Rubella? Of course not! We shot everyone and eradicated them from our country.

Shooting works.
Get shot:D.
 
I have not gotten the shot yet. I usually do.. But maybe if get the flu it might be a good weight loss program.
 
I have been to far too many medical calls where the person with the flu got the flu from the flu shot or from some other source after getting the shot. The only time I ever had the flu was a year when I did get a flu shot. Since then no flu shot and no flu.
 
I do not remember ever getting a flu shot, work/ med insurence has free flu vaccinations every year. DW said no, so I do not get one.
I told my Pulmonary Dr. this & he said take D3 5000 IU & K2 80 mcg (K2 helps you absorb the D3) daily & you will not need a flu shot, he is 60 years old.
I did not know about the eggs, why would I, I eat a dozen eggs a week, boiled or scrambled.
IF YOU ARE IN POOR HEALTH & OVER 59 YEAR OLD, GET THE SHOT. I agree Supervisor42 on this, flu kills babies & the very old & the weak.
To be fair I do get a runny nose in winter & sometime take extra potty breaks.:(
 
Some of you know , my best friend is a retired doctor , trauma surgeon for 55 years...he knows the human body physiology better than any man I know.

He is always advising me on my general health...and he has never led me wrong.

He refuses the flu shot and advises me the same.
The CDC does not know what strain of flu is coming into our country , or going to rear its head here. Many times it's a new strain.
Added to that, is the fact that it can produce the flu symptoms in some people , once introduced in the human body.

They guess every year...and haven't got it right yet.
So it's all about money..just a crap shoot for John q. Public.

I have never had the shot and only had a mild case about 24 years ago.

Use hand sanitizer profusely , and beware of where you go.

Jim
 
It's that time of year again. If you're over 55...
Get Your Flu Shot!
The flu kills people. It likes old people that have other health problems and very young people.

It's too easy to do and costs nothing for most.
I got mine Dammit! It's your turn!View attachment 29570Remember Diphtheria, Polio, or Rubella? Of course not! We shot everyone and eradicated them from our country.
Shooting works.
Get shot:D.
I’ve never had a flu shot. The first time I was aware of a flu shot was during the swine flu scare in maybe 1976 or 1977. To me, that was such a hype for the shot. One person may have had the swine flu that year. One. When this kind of stunt is perpetrated on the American people, it takes away my belief and trust on any future flu shots. I know two women who got the shot and Guillain Barre syndrome as a result. That was just in my small circle. I wonder how many actually got G.B.? Certainly many more than the flu.
 
I have never had a flu shot. I will likely never get a flu shot. I have had bad cases of the flu twice in my life while a friend of mine has had flu shots every year. He gets the flu every year within two weeks of getting his shot. I am not insinuating that his flu is because of his shot but I am going to say that the flu shot is targeted at the flu that might be a problem and not a good prediction of what flu you may be exposed to.
Either I don't get exposed or my immune system is better honed to deal with the flu but either way I don't get flu shots. I am 69 and not nearly as fit as I once was but after talking it over with my doctor I declined the shot.
 
...The CDC does not know what strain of flu is coming into our country , or going to rear its head here. Many times it's a new strain.
Added to that, is the fact that it can produce the flu symptoms in some people , once introduced in the human body.

They guess every year...and haven't got it right yet.
So it's all about money..just a crap shoot for John q. Public...
If you subscribe to logic, the strains in the vaccines are the least likely to propagate and become widespread because they run into immune people at every turn.
This is called 'herd-immunity'.
To prevent the spread of disease, you don't have to vaccinate every creature, just most of them.
The immune ones will protect the ones that are not vaccinated by not being able to pass the disease to them.
Anyone could say they they don't need the shot because they are protected by 'herd-immunity'.
The problem is, if most are not vaccinated, there is no 'herd-immunity' and the disease runs rampant.
(I know this sounds socialist)
Yes, the CDC has to pick which strains to put into the vaccine.
And you can bet they are the most lethal ones:eek:.

On a side note, tuberculosis was eradicated in the US decades ago because THEY SHOT EVERYONE!gaah
Parents argued that their kids did not need to be vaccinated against TB because there was no TB in the US anymore.
Immigrants are bringing TB in now and it is making a comeback because almost all of the young people in some areas are unprotected.
Stupid.
 
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If you subscribe to logic, the strains in the vaccines are the least likely to propagate and become widespread because they run into immune people at every turn.
This is called 'herd-immunity'.
To prevent the spread of disease, you don't have to vaccinate every creature, just most of them.
The immune ones will protect the ones that are not vaccinated by not being able to pass the disease to them.
Anyone could say they they don't need the shot because they are protected by 'herd-immunity'.
The problem is, if most are not vaccinated, there is no 'herd-immunity' and the disease runs rampant.
(I know this sounds socialist)
Yes, the CDC has to pick which strains to put into the vaccine.
And you can bet they are the most lethal ones:eek:.

On a side note, tuberculosis was eradicated in the US decades ago because THEY SHOT EVERYONE!gaah
Parents argued that their kids did not need to be vaccinated against TB because there was no TB in the US anymore.
Immigrants are bringing TB in now and it is making a comeback because almost all of the young people in some areas are unprotected.
Stupid.
If they develope a vaccine that can cover all the strains at once..

I would go tomorrow for mine.

Jim
 
Ask your doctor if they get a flu shot - They will say yes - because they are exposed to all kinds of people everyday.
I don't get that exposure. Anecdote; My doctor was out for a week with the flu even though she got the shot. The flu she contracted was not in the mix for the shot.
It is like paying for insurance against floods while living in the Atacama desert. The likelihood of a flood in an area that gets less than an inch of rain a year is nil.
There are 4 basic types of flu viruses but each type has a number of sub-types. There are 18 different hemagglutinin sub-types and 11 different neuraminidase sub-types. (H1 through H18 and N1 through N11 respectively.) Influenza A viruses can be further broken down into different strains. Current sub-types of influenza A viruses found in people are influenza A (H1N1) and influenza A (H3N2) viruses.
It would require an awful lot of separate shots to fit all the different types, sub-types and combinations of sub-types that exist. So, the CDC guesses which is most likely to be a problem and use that for the vaccination. They do not have a very good accuracy record.
But if you feel the need go for it! It isn't likely to hurt you unless you have an allergic reaction so do what you feel you should. As I understand it all medical personnel and first responders are urged to get their shot each year.
 

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