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full blooded boer buckling anemic again

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judy mayes

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Have a bucking Boer born last April he has had been anemic and treated and is anemic again !I did have a fecal done and he had parasites and coccidia and was treated and dewormed with cidectin at that time ( about a month and a half ago ). I dewormed with cydectin about over a month ago and i dewormed him two days ago and need help on what and how much folks here would use to restore his health .
Thank you in advance ,Judy
 

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We deworm 4 times with a situation like this.
Day 0- deworm with a good oral dewormer liquid (not pellets) like valbazen. Vet has us use 1cc per 10 pounds on valbazen. Stronger than the dosage on the bottle.
10 days later deworm again
10 days later deworm again
30 days later deworm again
We give vitamin B Injections twice daily and redcell orally twice daily until the anemia has turned around. Also have a good mineral supplement in front of them at all times. Deworm 1 time every 3 months after doing fecals until stools are clear. Then run fecals every 6 months after and deworm according to what is found.
Clearly you have a parasite problem going on. Run a fecal on every animal you have. Treat those that show a parasite load. Remember some parasites are not species specific.
If you don’t get on top of it now it will only get worse.
Good luck and let us know how it goes.
 

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What Double R said. Keep after the worms until they are gone or this will just keep happening.
 

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If your using Cydectin, are you giving 1.5 the dosage of pounds? I was using Cydectin but was told by my vet it may no longer be working in my area, he thinks. I was the second person he knew of who was using that as one of my wormers.
 

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Use 2 classes of de-wormer at a time.
Also it is imperative that you get the red blood cell count up. They can fall out real quickly. Maybe give some "red cell for a few days along with some pro-bios as red cell is rough on the rumen. Here is a de-worming chart that may help.
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This is going to sound like a stupid question, but I have only given my goats cydectin, privermectin, levamisole, eprinomectin, and ivermectin paste. All these are either liquid oral, paste, and 1 injectable. Oh and I've also used the pour on ivermectin for cattle. My question is on the ivermectin 1% injectable. It says to give 1 cc orally per every 20-30#. So you give it in their mouth instead of injecting? I found some of this at a really good price and it's hard to pass up. I have just never given anything orally when it was made to inject. My apologies for the stupid question, but I just want someone to slap me upside the head and spell it out and tell me yes.
 
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Dani, I have never had anything from Rosie on facebook group "successful goating with Rosie" to be incorrect. If she says to use a med in a certain way and it is different than the instructions or what someone else says I pretty much follow her advice. She has been correct more often than 3 different vets that I have contacted on my goats to date. One even was on the phone with me during a breach birth and told me "They can stay that way all day", which was not true. Rosie was also on the phone with me and said BS... you better go in or you are going to lose that goat and the babies. She was right. Didn't lose the mother and only one of 3 babies were lost. If I had followed the Vet's advice I would have lost them all. If you use facebook you may want to join that group. There are some very experienced people there and they are right there with you on the phone if you encounter a problem.
 

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Just in case any of you have a "Goat down" scenario due to loss of energy or weakness here is a recipe to try to get them back up.

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Dani, I have never had anything from Rosie on facebook group "successful goating with Rosie" to be incorrect. If she says to use a med in a certain way and it is different than the instructions or what someone else says I pretty much follow her advice. She has been correct more often than 3 different vets that I have contacted on my goats to date. One even was on the phone with me during a breach birth and told me "They can stay that way all day", which was not true. Rosie was also on the phone with me and said BS... you better go in or you are going to lose that goat and the babies. She was right. Didn't lose the mother and only one of 3 babies were lost. If I had followed the Vet's advice I would have lost them all. If you use facebook you may want to join that group. There are some very experienced people there and they are right there with you on the phone if you encounter a problem.
I had a hard time finding a very reliable goat vet. I have one that I will go to if need be now that he has sobered up and no longer brings a 6 pack into work for breakfast. . . Over the years it's been a learn as you go experience. Fortunately I have not had to deal with a breech birth yet, but I have had to deal with one that had ended up dying and momma never went into full labor so had to get pulled.
 

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I live in cattle country. Vets generally tend to know more about cattle here but they also tend to think along the lines that cattle are worth more. This is not always the case and I had to remind a Vet that I see from time to time that some of my goats cost more than a calf...way more. It helped put the importance of my goats into perspective for him.

Most Vets do not necessarily know a lot about goats and how to treat their illnesses. Many will give dosages that are good for cattle or the dosage on the med but in most cases goats take a much stronger dosage per pound than cattle or other animals.
For this reason I highly suggest that you join the Rosie's group on FB that I mentioned earlier. Rosie and some of the other people there are very very experienced with illnesses and working solutions. They have already helped me save a few of mine at times. Joining in advance and asking questions such as these will help you be prepared in advance when an emergency pops up.
 
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This is going to sound like a stupid question, but I have only given my goats cydectin, privermectin, levamisole, eprinomectin, and ivermectin paste. All these are either liquid oral, paste, and 1 injectable. Oh and I've also used the pour on ivermectin for cattle. My question is on the ivermectin 1% injectable. It says to give 1 cc orally per every 20-30#. So you give it in their mouth instead of injecting? I found some of this at a really good price and it's hard to pass up. I have just never given anything orally when it was made to inject. My apologies for the stupid question, but I just want someone to slap me upside the head and spell it out and tell me yes.
You can use injectables oraly. Don't use a pour on oraly though.
 

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Alright guys I have an older goat, at least 7 years old who recently had twins a couple months ago. Her gums and eyelids look good, but she developed bottle jaw and diarrhea. She was wormed with cydectin and then given LevaMed which is a Levamisole hydrochloride Soluble Pig Wormer at 36 ml. Her bottle jaw has been coming and going. I have been giving her a supplement of vitamins over the last few days with a bottle. At first she came running, then her willingness tapered off and I have been having to catch her. What am I missing??
 

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Alright guys I have an older goat, at least 7 years old who recently had twins a couple months ago. Her gums and eyelids look good, but she developed bottle jaw and diarrhea. She was wormed with cydectin and then given LevaMed which is a Levamisole hydrochloride Soluble Pig Wormer at 36 ml. Her bottle jaw has been coming and going. I have been giving her a supplement of vitamins over the last few days with a bottle. At first she came running, then her willingness tapered off and I have been having to catch her. What am I missing??
Do you have liver flukes in your area?
Have you or had a vet run a fecal?
 

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Sorry been an early and busy morning. She was looking better today but went ahead and started to treat for liver flukes just in case. Vet is not in until Mon so no, I haven't run a fecal out to him. It was a wet and rainy winter into spring for us.and we basically had a warmer than usual winter.
 

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