Medicinal marijuana?

[Magus]

Any experts in here?
Legal experts?

Say a fellow has a hole in his stomach that is real sensitive to pretty much everything, is it better to smoke, make tea or edibles?
It's the only thing that helps sometimes.

Will Medicare cover medical marijuana?

 

[Caribou]

If you have lung issues, asthma or COPD for example, don't smoke. One doctor told me to simmer it with a stick of butter, let it cool, then skim the solid butter off the top of the pot. Use that butter on toast or cook with it. THC is fat soluble.

 

[Magus]

Something seems to have cured my COPD, thought that was it?

 

[Biggkidd]

It actually can help with breathing issues but not so much when smoked. I've been making canna butter capsules for a year or more now and they work well for me. Making them is a little more involved than stated. In general though I probably wouldn't be alive today without cannabis. I've been treating my M.S. with it for years in one form or another. It works way better than all the RX meds I've tried and that has been a lot more than a few.

 

[Magus]

Aha, I know why it's illegal here now!
It cures stuff!

 

[SheepDog]

The why is not the issue for me. The fact that it remains a controlled substance federally means that If I want to keep my CCL and the ability to buy guns I stay away from its use. Getting a prescription is a great way to get caught when buying a gun.

 

[Magus]

I know.
Pain is a great motivator and CDB oil is three times the cost!

 

[Biggkidd]

Continuing to live and breathe is also a great motivator along with M.S. I also have COPD or worse depending on which doc you talk to.

 

[Cascadian]

You can make CBD products from even low quality weed. Jazzy posted some recipes way back. Here Cannabis Medical Info and Recipes

 

[Spikedriver]

I cant do any kind of cannabis due to my employer having a lot of random testing, but sometimes I wish I could when I need a mild painkiller...

 

[Weedygarden]

I cant do any kind of cannabis due to my employer having a lot of random testing, but sometimes I wish I could when I need a mild painkiller...

I wonder if you talked to your employer about it if you could get permission to test positive for it without it costing you your job?

CBD is fairly common in Colorado, and I know people who get it for their dogs. I understand that you have to be careful what your dog gets and doesn't get.

 

[Tirediron]

I find canna butter to be a great help, It is easy to make and highly effective for me, really dulls the pain, still leaves enough that i don't aggravate my injury, biggest advantage for me is it seem to have eliminated the long term phantom pain. and one reason for sack of crap Justin Castro's existence is the de criminalization of it.
And as the Magi said, it work so no wonder it is illegal

 

[Weedygarden]

I find canna butter to be a great help, It is easy to make and highly effective for me, really dulls the pain, still leaves enough that i don't aggravate my injury, biggest advantage for me is it seem to have eliminated the long term phantom pain. and one reason for sack of crap Justin Castro's existence is the de criminalization of it.
And as the Magi said, it work so no wonder it is illegal

We have made progress in getting it legalized nationally. We just need a few states to get with it. South Dakotans approved it, but the governor wouldn't approve it. They do have legalized medical, just not recreational. I don't know what is going on in Canada.

https://disa.com/map-of-marijuana-legality-by-state

 

[Biggkidd]

I was amazed when VA legalized it here last year. It should have never been illegal all a money and jobs thing. It was never actually about the drug being dangerous. It was about money and control.

 

[Spikedriver]

I wonder if you talked to your employer about it if you could get permission to test positive for it without it costing you your job?

CBD is fairly common in Colorado, and I know people who get it for their dogs. I understand that you have to be careful what your dog gets and doesn't get.

No, my profession is federally regulated and there's no way around it. THC is not permitted, period. We are tested and tested often.

 

[Weedygarden]

No, my profession is federally regulated and there's no way around it. THC is not permitted, period.

I understand the reason some professions are regulated. It is for everyone's safety.

 

[Cascadian]

The Marijuana drug test is for THC. I guess I assumed everyone knows there are at least two active chemicals. THC causes the high and euphoria. CBD is the pain killing and medicinal chemical. Medical grade CBD can have less than 1 % THC. Obviously you would want to talk with someone smarter than me but in theory you could use it and not fail a drug test. Some CBD is derived from hemp.
https://my.vanderbilt.edu/marijuanalaw/2018/09/is-cbd-legal-under-federal-law/

 

[Spikedriver]

The Marijuana drug test is for THC. I guess I assumed everyone knows there are at least two active chemicals. THC causes the high and euphoria. CBD is the pain killing and medicinal chemical. Medical grade CBD can have less than 1 % THC. Obviously you would want to talk with someone smarter than me but in theory you could use it and not fail a drug test. Some CBD is derived from hemp.
https://my.vanderbilt.edu/marijuanalaw/2018/09/is-cbd-legal-under-federal-law/

We were told that even medical CBD will cause us to piss hot. We were also told that the jury was still out on the topical CBD you put on your skin, so to be safe avoid that too.

 

[Cascadian]

I stand corrected. It seems even very low levels of THC may build up over time and cause you to fail wiz quiz.
https://www.cnet.com/health/nutrition/can-cbd-make-you-fail-a-drug-test/

 

[Magus]

I cant do any kind of cannabis due to my employer having a lot of random testing, but sometimes I wish I could when I need a mild painkiller...

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[Spikedriver]

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Bugleweed is a no go for me. I'm a type 1 diabetic, and Bugleweed is known to mess with blood glucose levels. TBH I can get by with ibuprofen or naproxen, but they tear up my gut. That's really the only reason I'm looking for something better...

 

[Magus]

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Here you go Spike.
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[havasu]

Spike, you may have mentioned it before but obviously I wasn't paying attention. What line of work are you in that has such serious testing so often?

 

[Spikedriver]

Spike, you may have mentioned it before but obviously I wasn't paying attention. What line of work are you in that has such serious testing so often?

I'm a railroader, specifically a heavy equipment operator in the track maintenance department.

 

[Spikedriver]

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Here you go Spike.
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I've seen that before, and I've considered Kratom. There's a head shop about an hour from here that advertises it in their window but I've never bought any. I do know of a couple railroaders who use it as a painkiller and recreational stress reliever. I imagine the railroad will come up with a way to test for it eventually...

 

[Magus]

If its legal where you live, F**k them. the stuff here is guaranteed to not show as a narcotic.
I use some at times, but it bugs my stomach.

 

[Spikedriver]

If its legal where you live, F**k them. the stuff here is guaranteed to not show as a narcotic.
I use some at times, but it bugs my stomach.

I agree, F them, but legal or illegal doesn't enter into it when it comes to the railroad. If they say you can be fired for it, you can be fired, and the court system has their backs.

 

[Supervisor42]

I agree, F them, but legal or illegal doesn't enter into it when it comes to the railroad. If they say you can be fired for it, you can be fired, and the court system has their backs.

Yes. The "real" drug test checks for dozens of chemicals at minute levels.
Been to the dentist or doctor and they shot you with something to deaden pain to work a tooth or get stitches? You will fail for cocaine. Notice the ending of these words and see if you can figure out why:

Aside from its use as a dental anesthetic, procaine (novacaine) is used less frequently today, since more effective (and hypoallergenic) alternatives such as lidocaine (Xylocaine) exist. Like other local anesthetics (such as mepivacaine, and prilocaine),

Even consuming poppy seeds can cause you to fail the test:
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/can-poppy-seeds-make-you-fail-a-drug-test
Here is all you need to fail the real test:

There are many, many, other ridiculous things too.
Glad I don't have to dance to that tune anymore, and God bless the people that do.

 

[Magus]

I agree, F them, but legal or illegal doesn't enter into it when it comes to the railroad. If they say you can be fired for it, you can be fired, and the court system has their backs.

Sounds like the Soviet union.

 

[Spikedriver]

Sounds like the Soviet union.

There's federal rules in play too. There's been a lot of deaths of workers, passengers, and civilians because of intoxication...