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Here is another reason to be ready to operate off grid. Another weakness in the grid has beed figured out. How many here have IoT decices?

HOW HACKED WATER HEATERS COULD TRIGGER MASS BLACKOUTS
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WHEN THE CYBERSECURITY industry warns about the nightmare of hackers causing blackouts, the scenario they describe typically entails an elite team of hackers breaking into the inner sanctum of a power utility to start flipping switches. But one group of researchers has imagined how an entire power grid could be taken down by hacking a less centralized and protected class of targets: home air conditioners and water heaters. Lots of them.

At the Usenix Security conference this week, a group of Princeton University security researchers will present a study that considers a little-examined question in power grid cybersecurity: What if hackers attacked not the supply side of the power grid, but the demand side? In a series of simulations, the researchers imagined what might happen if hackers controlled a botnet composed of thousands of silently hacked consumer internet of things devices, particularly power-hungry ones like air conditioners, water heaters, and space heaters. Then they ran a series of software simulations to see how many of those devices an attacker would need to simultaneously hijack to disrupt the stability of the power grid.

Their answers point to a disturbing, if not quite yet practical scenario: In a power network large enough to serve an area of 38 million people—a population roughly equal to Canada or California—the researchers estimate that just a one percent bump in demand might be enough to take down the majority of the grid. That demand increase could be created by a botnet as small as a few tens of thousands of hacked electric water heaters or a couple hundred thousand air conditioners.

"Power grids are stable as long as supply is equal to demand," says Saleh Soltan, a researcher in Princeton's Department of Electrical Engineering, who led the study. "If you have a very large botnet of IoT devices, you can really manipulate the demand, changing it abruptly, any time you want."

Just a one percent bump in demand might be enough to take down the majority of the grid.

The result of that botnet-induced imbalance, Soltan says, could be cascading blackouts. When demand in one part of the grid rapidly increases, it can overload the current on certain power lines, damaging them or more likely triggering devices called protective relays, which turn off the power when they sense dangerous conditions. Switching off those lines puts more load on the remaining ones, potentially leading to a chain reaction.

"Fewer lines need to carry the same flows and they get overloaded, so then the next one will be disconnected and the next one," says Soltan. "In the worst case, most or all of them are disconnected, and you have a blackout in most of your grid."

Power utility engineers, of course, expertly forecast fluctuations in electric demand on a daily basis. They plan for everything from heat waves that predictably cause spikes in air conditioner usage to the moment at the end of British soap opera episodes when hundreds of thousands of viewers all switch on their tea kettles. But the Princeton researchers' study suggests that hackers could make those demand spikes not only unpredictable, but maliciously timed.

The researchers don't actually point to any vulnerabilities in specific household devices, or suggest how exactly they might be hacked. Instead, they start from the premise that a large number of those devices could somehow be compromised and silently controlled by a hacker. That's arguably a realistic assumption, given the myriad vulnerabilities other security researchers and hackers have found in the internet of things. One talk at the Kaspersky Analyst Summit in 2016 described security flaws in air conditioners that could be used to pull off the sort of grid disturbance that the Princeton researchers describe. And real-world malicious hackers have compromised everything from refrigerators to fish tanks.

Given that assumption, the researchers ran simulations in power grid software MATPOWER and Power World to determine what sort of botnet would could disrupt what size grid. They ran most of their simulations on models of the Polish power grid from 2004 and 2008, a rare country-sized electrical system whose architecture is described in publicly available records. They found they could cause a cascading blackout of 86 percent of the power lines in the 2008 Poland grid model with just a one percent increase in demand. That would require the equivalent of 210,000 hacked air conditioners, or 42,000 electric water heaters.

The notion of an internet of things botnet large enough to pull off one of those attacks isn't entirely farfetched. The Princeton researchers point to the Mirai botnet of 600,000 hacked IoT devices, including security cameras and home routers. That zombie horde hit DNS provider Dyn with an unprecedented denial of service attack in late 2016, taking down a broad collection of websites.

Building a botnet of the same size out of more power-hungry IoT devices is probably impossible today, says Ben Miller, a former cybersecurity engineer at electric utility Constellation Energy and now the director of the threat operations center at industrial security firm Dragos. There simply aren't enough high-power smart devices in homes, he says, especially since the entire botnet would have to be within the geographic area of the target electrical grid, not distributed across the world like the Mirai botnet.

'If you have a very large botnet of IoT devices, you can really manipulate the demand, changing it abruptly, any time you want.'

SALEH SOLTAN, PRINCETON UNIVERSITY

But as internet-connected air conditioners, heaters, and the smart thermostats that control them increasingly show up in homes for convenience and efficiency, a demand-based attack like the one the Princeton researchers describes could become more practical than one that targets grid operators. "It’s as simple as running a botnet. When a botnet is successful, it can scale by itself. That makes the attack easier," Miller says. "It's really hard to attack all the generation sites on a grid all at once. But with a botnet you could attack all these end user devices at once and have some sort of impact."

The Princeton researchers modeled more devious techniques their imaginary IoT botnet might use to mess with power grids, too. They found it was possible to increase demand in one area while decreasing it in another, so that the total load on a system's generators remains constant while the attack overloads certain lines. That could make it even harder for utility operators to figure out the source of the disruption.

If a botnet did succeed in taking down a grid, the researchers' models showed it would be even easier to keepit down as operators attempted to bring it back online, triggering smaller scale versions of their attack in the sections or "islands" of the grid that recover first. And smaller scale attacks could force utility operators to pay for expensive backup power supplies, even if they fall short of causing actual blackouts. And the researchers point out that since the source of the demand spikes would be largely hidden from utilities, attackers could simply try them again and again, experimenting until they had the desired effect.

The owners of the actual air conditioners and water heaters might notice that their equipment was suddenly behaving strangely. But that still wouldn't immediately be apparent to the target energy utility. "Where do the consumers report it?" asks Princeton's Soltan. "They don’t report it to Con Edison, they report it to the manufacturer of the smart device. But the real impact is on the power system that doesn’t have any of this data."

That disconnect represents the root of the security vulnerability that utility operators need to fix, Soltan argues. Just as utilities carefully model heat waves and British tea times and keep a stock of energy in reserve to cover those demands, they now need to account for the number of potentially hackable high-powered devices on their grids, too. As high-power smart-home gadgets multiply, the consequences of IoT insecurity could someday be more than just a haywire thermostat, but entire portions of a country going dark.

https://www.wired.com/story/water-heaters-power-grid-hack-blackout/
 
I have a washing machine that I'm very suspicious of .

AI is a human nightmare for sure. Especially when it comes to WMD.
 
I'm confused again.

How does one use the Internet to access my water heater to manually turn it on? It's the water temperature in the tank that "controls" the on off of the heater.

Same with my A/C. It's the air temperature of the house that influences my dumb thermostat to turn the A/C on off. How would a yahoo use Al Bore's Internet to turn the hot-water heater or the A/C on?

My wife asked me why I carried a gun around the house. I told her, "Fear of the CIA". She laughed, I laughed, the Amazon Echo laughed. I shot the Amazon Echo.
 
How about they just mess with the smart meters on our houses. The ones we didn't give permission to install.
How can a "Smart" meter turn anything on in a house? Other then relaying usage they are actually rather dumb. IMHO

We don't "own" the meter. The utility company does. They don't need our permission.

I'm going to give you a ride to your work tomorrow. Do I need your permission to change the tires on my car?
 
How can a "Smart" meter turn anything on in a house? Other then relaying usage they are actually rather dumb. IMHO

We don't "own" the meter. The utility company does. They don't need our permission.

I'm going to give you a ride to your work tomorrow. Do I need your permission to change the tires on my car?
I don't know how they are set up or what components they have. How do they measure how many people are watching a particular television show? I have long believed there are ways that we are all being tracked, and like many things, it has come on gradually, one thing after another.
 
Some utilities require that you have a smart thermostat. These allow the utility company to adjust your thermostat from their office. If the terrorist hijacks your A/C control to make it cooler in the house and, at the same time, turns the heating system on so that they are fighting each other it would burn up a lot of juice. Likewise, if you have a smart home and your water heater is tied into the net through your computer, or another system, that can be hijacked as well. Find enough ways into enough homes and then activate them all at once.

How many of us have heard of these "wonderful" systems where you can use your smart phone to turn on lights or your dinner. Do you want to preheat your oven or turn on the crock pot? No problem.

Some years back my brother volunteered to wire my entire home so it could be controlled by a computer. We never did it but this is a rather mature technology.
 
... How do they measure how many people are watching a particular television show? ....

The same way "they" predict who will win a Presidential election. They call X amount of people and ask. 80 out of 100 called said they will vote for Killary. Poll taker will conclude that Killary will be the next President. 65% of the called say they watched NFL. Pollster will factor in the population, apply a little wizardry and fairy dust to concluded how many millions watch NFL.

Or they just out right lie to make Killary's book or the NFL appear to be more popular with the goal of interesting the Sheeple into buying or watching.

IMHO
 
I don't know how they are set up or what components they have. How do they measure how many people are watching a particular television show? I have long believed there are ways that we are all being tracked, and like many things, it has come on gradually, one thing after another.

Good point Weedy, never thought about that.
 
The same way "they" predict who will win a Presidential election. They call X amount of people and ask. 80 out of 100 called said they will vote for Killary. Poll taker will conclude that Killary will be the next President. 65% of the called say they watched NFL. Pollster will factor in the population, apply a little wizardry and fairy dust to concluded how many millions watch NFL.

Or they just out right lie to make Killary's book or the NFL appear to be more popular with the goal of interesting the Sheeple into buying or watching.

IMHO
I believe it is more sophisticated than that. I believe they can tell how much electricity, gas or water we are using without someone having to read the meter, with the new smart meters. I believe that is also true of televisions, phones and most devices that require electricity.

If I could have, I would still be using my first cell phone, land line phone, television, etc. I believe one of the reasons some of them "fail" is forced upgrades.

I just heard that they have "just" developed technology to use lasers to alter weather. I don't believe that for a minute. I believe that while weather is nature, there has been other manipulation of the weather, IMHO.
 
Most new appliances come with WiFi connections that can track usage and be used to control the appliance from a smart phone or internet connection. ANYTHING that is connected to the Internet of Things can be hacked and controlled remotely. All it takes is a simple bot that goes out on the internet, connects to those appliances, and on a given date and time causes high usage of the electric grid.
Just like the toy drones can be hacked and taken over by anyone with the know how. Hackers spend a lot of time finding the weaknesses and alerting manufacturers and owners but most do not pay any attention to the possibilities of hacks. After all who believes they are important enough to draw the attention of black hatters? The pump controller manufacturer didn't see the need to fix their weakness until the nuclear facility using them to control cooling was hit with a virus that destroyed the facility by cycling the pumps between full and minimum capacity over a ten minute period.
Your smart phones can be hacked, your computers can be hacked, "smart" cars and appliances can be hacked and although there are ways to defeat such weaknesses nobody thinks the risk is great enough to do anything about it. Simple software upgrades, strong passwords and limited exposure are just too much work for most people. If you have a smart device you can do an internet search for vulnerabilities and find out what you can do to protect your stuff and your life. (I bet you don't take the time)
 
Most new appliances come with WiFi connections that can track usage and be used to control the appliance from a smart phone or internet connection. ANYTHING that is connected to the Internet of Things can be hacked and controlled remotely. All it takes is a simple bot that goes out on the internet, connects to those appliances, and on a given date and time causes high usage of the electric grid.
Just like the toy drones can be hacked and taken over by anyone with the know how. Hackers spend a lot of time finding the weaknesses and alerting manufacturers and owners but most do not pay any attention to the possibilities of hacks. After all who believes they are important enough to draw the attention of black hatters? The pump controller manufacturer didn't see the need to fix their weakness until the nuclear facility using them to control cooling was hit with a virus that destroyed the facility by cycling the pumps between full and minimum capacity over a ten minute period.
Your smart phones can be hacked, your computers can be hacked, "smart" cars and appliances can be hacked and although there are ways to defeat such weaknesses nobody thinks the risk is great enough to do anything about it. Simple software upgrades, strong passwords and limited exposure are just too much work for most people. If you have a smart device you can do an internet search for vulnerabilities and find out what you can do to protect your stuff and your life. (I bet you don't take the time)

I agree 100% that anything and everything connected to Al Bore's Internet can be accessed given enough time and resources. Even home WiFi can be compromised by anyone within range.

But without that Internet/WiFi connection the control of your appliances is totally yours.
 
Remember my drivers license rant? ... REAL ID...

Actual it is proof that you are are a United States Citizen. Don't want a Real ID? The Feds will also accept:

  • U.S. passport
  • U.S. passport card
  • DHS trusted traveler cards (Global Entry, NEXUS, SENTRI, FAST)
  • U.S. Department of Defense ID, including IDs issued to dependents
  • Permanent resident card
  • Border crossing card
  • DHS-designated enhanced driver's license
  • Federally recognized, tribal-issued photo ID
  • HSPD-12 PIV card
  • Foreign government-issued passport
  • Canadian provincial driver's license or Indian and Northern Affairs Canada card
  • Transportation worker identification credential
  • U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services Employment Authorization Card (I-766)
  • U.S. Merchant Mariner Credential
 
Of course if you want to VOTE you DON'T need the STAR on the document'

Remember my drivers license rant? Well after further investigation it turns out it is not a D-license but a REAL ID. it is a mandatory facial recognition for the whole nation.
The initial mark of the beast process. So I may no longer have the right to drive if I fear of signing myself over to satan and taking the mark.
Sounds far fetched well so does the mark predicted 4000 years ago.
After watching the white devils in Switzerland and those in high places I doubt nothing. The chip is next ot just the closing signature.
The whole world will take the mark. Far fetched or sign of the times,as in end times?

I haven't watched the video yet, but I will. The mark of the beast is slowly coming on, but have you pledged to Satan yet? That will be the time that we will be in real trouble, IMHO.
 
Actual it is proof that you are are a United States Citizen. Don't want a Real ID? The Feds will also accept:

  • U.S. passport
  • U.S. passport card
  • DHS trusted traveler cards (Global Entry, NEXUS, SENTRI, FAST)
  • U.S. Department of Defense ID, including IDs issued to dependents
  • Permanent resident card
  • Border crossing card
  • DHS-designated enhanced driver's license
  • Federally recognized, tribal-issued photo ID
  • HSPD-12 PIV card
  • Foreign government-issued passport
  • Canadian provincial driver's license or Indian and Northern Affairs Canada card
  • Transportation worker identification credential
  • U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services Employment Authorization Card (I-766)
  • U.S. Merchant Mariner Credential

One of my favorite series was ' Person Of Interest ' but I didn't know it was already i nthe making when the show was started. I think I have enough warning about these people so I have a decision to make real soon.

I haven't watched the video yet, but I will. The mark of the beast is slowly coming on, but have you pledged to Satan yet? That will be the time that we will be in real trouble, IMHO.
I need to motorize my bike I guess.
No but it won't be as easy as just telling the world ' take this card and you belong to satan' from my understanding.
Anyway I'm still thinking about it.
 
Most new appliances come with WiFi connections that can track usage and be used to control the appliance from a smart phone or internet connection. ANYTHING that is connected to the Internet of Things can be hacked and controlled remotely. All it takes is a simple bot that goes out on the internet, connects to those appliances, and on a given date and time causes high usage of the electric grid.
Just like the toy drones can be hacked and taken over by anyone with the know how. Hackers spend a lot of time finding the weaknesses and alerting manufacturers and owners but most do not pay any attention to the possibilities of hacks. After all who believes they are important enough to draw the attention of black hatters? The pump controller manufacturer didn't see the need to fix their weakness until the nuclear facility using them to control cooling was hit with a virus that destroyed the facility by cycling the pumps between full and minimum capacity over a ten minute period.
Your smart phones can be hacked, your computers can be hacked, "smart" cars and appliances can be hacked and although there are ways to defeat such weaknesses nobody thinks the risk is great enough to do anything about it. Simple software upgrades, strong passwords and limited exposure are just too much work for most people. If you have a smart device you can do an internet search for vulnerabilities and find out what you can do to protect your stuff and your life. (I bet you don't take the time)

That is why we bought all "stupid" appliances for the new place. Nothing to hack except that stupid meter and we are planning on replacing that with solar.
 
That is why we bought all "stupid" appliances for the new place. Nothing to hack except that stupid meter and we are planning on replacing that with solar.

Why? If you have a drivers license with a STAR on it you can be tracked to the moon. Or no starry ,no drivey. It has a chip in it I think. Still invesitgatign so not sure .

Check out ' 1:30 minutes into video. Mute because you don't need to listen to ugly music, it is all in writing.
Meerkat moved it to Faith Forum.
 
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Why? If you have a drivers license with a STAR on it you can be tracked to the moon. Or no starry ,no drivey. It has a chip in it I think. Still invesitgatign so not sure .

The star on a DL doesn't control my electric bill.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/national/real-ids/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.683038a94d9c

If a state is deemed noncompliant, its residents would no longer be able to use such documents for federal identification purposes. (There are no such states at the moment.) Currently, they would be barred from using their state credentials to enter military bases, most federal facilities and nuclear power plants.

On Jan. 22, that list would include airport security checkpoints. Last December, the Transportation Security Administration began posting signs at airport security checkpoints warning travelers about the upcoming deadline.

Until then, state-issued driver’s licenses and ID cards can still be used for domestic air travel, regardless of a state’s compliance status. After that, those from noncompliant states will not be allowed. Those from states with extensions will not be affected, as long as extensions are maintained.

The hard cutoff is Oct. 1, 2020, when all driver’s licenses and ID cards must be compliant to go through airport security. (Most compliant states offer a choice to opt out of obtaining a compliant ID.)
 
The star on a DL doesn't control my electric bill.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/national/real-ids/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.683038a94d9c

If a state is deemed noncompliant, its residents would no longer be able to use such documents for federal identification purposes. (There are no such states at the moment.) Currently, they would be barred from using their state credentials to enter military bases, most federal facilities and nuclear power plants.

On Jan. 22, that list would include airport security checkpoints. Last December, the Transportation Security Administration began posting signs at airport security checkpoints warning travelers about the upcoming deadline.

Until then, state-issued driver’s licenses and ID cards can still be used for domestic air travel, regardless of a state’s compliance status. After that, those from noncompliant states will not be allowed. Those from states with extensions will not be affected, as long as extensions are maintained.

The hard cutoff is Oct. 1, 2020, when all driver’s licenses and ID cards must be compliant to go through airport security. (Most compliant states offer a choice to opt out of obtaining a compliant ID.)

I would think that most people would have renewed their license to the new one, but I am sure there will be a few who will not be ready.
 
The star on a DL doesn't control my electric bill.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/national/real-ids/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.683038a94d9c

If a state is deemed noncompliant, its residents would no longer be able to use such documents for federal identification purposes. (There are no such states at the moment.) Currently, they would be barred from using their state credentials to enter military bases, most federal facilities and nuclear power plants.

On Jan. 22, that list would include airport security checkpoints. Last December, the Transportation Security Administration began posting signs at airport security checkpoints warning travelers about the upcoming deadline.

Until then, state-issued driver’s licenses and ID cards can still be used for domestic air travel, regardless of a state’s compliance status. After that, those from noncompliant states will not be allowed. Those from states with extensions will not be affected, as long as extensions are maintained.

The hard cutoff is Oct. 1, 2020, when all driver’s licenses and ID cards must be compliant to go through airport security. (Most compliant states offer a choice to opt out of obtaining a compliant ID.)


Ok then . But from what I read you won't be able to buy or sell without the mark or do anythign else. This will be when the real test will begin.
 
But we still need to be on guard. I doubt that it'll be as simple as having to have three sixes tattooed to our foreheads.

No but Amish they don't have to put it on your forehead if they have your forehead in a scan.
This new license has facial ID on it. It can reconize your face aka ' forehead 'anywhere on earth. Next will be your hand chipped.
The chip will be next and it will operate your vehicles ,door locks, etc,etc,etc,.
 

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