Want a root cellar/bunker for under $400?

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  1. Jul 27, 2018 #1

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    Sounds like something interesting but no real information on the “site” and could not skip ahead in the video so I closed it down. Shady site I’m thinking. What is the actual premise of the product? Cheap underground room instead of a shipping container is what I got from what I saw of it.
     
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    Wasn't as good as I thought at first....buried shipping container would be a better deal, though a bit more expensive.
     
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    It is an advertisement for a book offer that is downloaded once you pay. I think the same folks put out other "prepper" offers like "POWER FOR PATRIOTS" and other similar books.
    They are interesting reads but depending on how much you already know they are a bit redundant. You can buy the offer and the turn around and get your money back but most people won't ask for a refund even if they feel the information is not something they need. They make a lot of money off of information that is available elsewhere if you just look for it.
    A note for those who live in earthquake regions: Root cellars don't survive moderate earthquakes unless you build with steel reinforced concrete or steel reinforced wood beams.
    If you can afford to throw away the $35 then you are likely to get some usable information.
     
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    Yeah, this is not as good as I thought at first....a buried shipping container would be better, though a bit more expensive.
     
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    Shipping containers are not made to take the top and side loads of being underground. Just the framing to make a container box strong enough to take the loads would also make good underground shelter. The container is just extra weight at that point. They work alright for short term above ground storage but they rust and leak which is why they are being sold rather than reused. For similar money you can build a wood framed structure that will last through anything the container would.
     
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    It seems that burying shipping containers was a thing for a while, and maybe it still is. A shipping container is not made to be buried, nor to have heavy weight on top of it. Is it a thing because it might be a fast way to get an underground place? How long before it would be completely rusted out and collapse? The size is limiting. The treated lumber flooring is a health issue.

    If I was going to have something underground, I would want it to be poured and reinforced concrete, not cinder block where moisture can weep through the joints. Then I would want steel beams across the roof and more reinforced concrete. Yes, more work and money, but anything worth having is worth a little quality.

    Me? I would not call it a root cellar nor a bunker. I would call it a storm cellar. How many people live in areas where tornadoes happen? Build the storm cellar, then outfit it for food storage or as a bunker. Build shelves for storage, but keep them covered so your preps are not seen immediately. Call it a bunker, and you have gotten people's attention in other ways.

    My grandparents had a root cellar in town that they never used, but had filled in. There were tornadoes occasionally in the area, but I never knew anyone who had a storm cellar. Also, I wouldn't put it in a place where anyone and everyone driving by would see it. I might put it out back, close to the main house, and even have a short tunnel from the basement going there, with steel doors at both ends of the tunnel for reinforcement from storms and break ins.
     
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    I've wanted one of these for years now price of steel makes it impossible for us.

     
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    What I like about this bunker:
    concrete, so no rust
    lots of storage under the floor
    storage under the beds
    not too large, not too small
    in his back yard, almost unnoticeable
    because it is under ground, the temperature is stable and comfortable--never too hot, never too cold, no matter where it would be.
     
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    I would not buy the works like the colvert above but 15 years ago I could have got the culvert for $1,500! What a mistake we made in not buying one back then.

    I also wouldn't have been going that far underground or having all those thick doors.
     
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    I would go that far underground, if I could, because of stable temperatures. The thick door would be a protection from invaders, EMPs, radiation, blasts.
     
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    I've seen underground bunkers made out of refurbished gas holding tanks that seemed very plausible but with our water tablet it would have to be anchored with something. this is the link http://www.ultradeertowers.com/ultra-bunker-kit/ The cost is way up there too

    I tried watching the video but he was a little long winded. . . Never did hear what he used for the actual shelter.
     
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    LOL, yea it was the first one I found so I just threw it up
     
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    How about a regular basement built under an outbuilding with a secret entrance and exit. No one would expect a basement on an outbuilding.
     
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    Good idea Amish. :thumbs:
     
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    A garage, shop, or barn would be excellent. A concrete patio with a garden shed sitting right next to it. Your basement could have a hidden entrance to the bunker. There are many ways to hide the entrance and existence of a bunker.

    Many of these bunkers have an entry area with a secure door. Some bunkers have a large O2 cylinder to provide breathing air. You can also get large cylinders of CO2. If you piped the CO2 through the bulkhead and into the entry area you could have a defensive area that would require special breathing equipment to get through. If you charged it when the assault on the exterior door started they would have no way to be aware of the atmosphere. CO2 is only hazardous above certain concentrations so once you cleared the chamber there would be no lingering hazard.
     
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    Unfortunately where I am at a basement is not an option. It has to be waterproof and anchored in the ground. When we have hurricanes even coffins have been known to pop up out of the ground.
     
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    Exactly. There was a movie, "Inglorious Bastards," about a Jew hunter in WW II. There is one farmer who hides Jews in a basement under the chicken house (I think it was the chicken house). There are lots of options if a person uses their imagination.
     
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    Here is Jerry tunnels for free.

     
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    Septic tank companies will sometimes have damaged tanks that they can't sell for your poo. I've heard that you can get these "damaged" tanks super cheap and use them as root cellars.
     
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