And they are about five feet away, just outside the cabin window. First time I've seen that. She nursed for about ten minutes. Would have been nice to have one of those cell phone thingies. Now she is just sitting hugging the the little one. Would not know there were two porcupines, the little one is exact same color as her underside and she has her arms around the little one. Just looks like one huge porcupine. Actually the little one is 2/3 as big as the mother.