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Discussion in 'Long guns and Handguns' started by Sentry18, Sep 6, 2019.

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  1. Sep 8, 2019 #31

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    Sticking with guns I already own cause I like an extra challenge. Excluding shotguns from the confiscation, I'd go with my Savage Axis II XP in .223. Combining that rifle with my Remington 1100 in 20 gauge, I could do most of the things I do with a long gun today. Wouldn't be optimal. Nor would it be as much fun. But the two together could get the job done.
     
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  2. Sep 8, 2019 #32

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    A Remington 1100 in 20Ga is on my short list if I ever find a good deal.
     
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  3. Sep 8, 2019 #33

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    I don’t any firearm that is capable of assault.

    An assault is the act of inflicting physical harm or unwanted physical contact upon a person or, in some specific legal definitions, a threat or attempt to commit such an action.
     
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  4. Sep 8, 2019 #34

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    If the ban reads semiauto magazine fed, bolt and lever guns are OK. Right now the grabbers are looking at detachable magazines and semiauto, but both of those details can easily get dropped. Handguns of any sort are already targeted. At that point we are left with 'revolver rifles' for repeaters. Ouch.
     
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  5. Sep 9, 2019 #35

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    I've always wanted a Mossberg MVP Patrol. It shoots 5.56mm NATO (.223 REM), and it takes standard AR-15/M-16 magazines.
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    You can get wood stocks to make it less assaulty:
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    Or, you can get the full assault bolt action model:
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  6. Sep 9, 2019 #36

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    When I first learned of that Mossberg MVP Patrol Rifle, I was drooling. A bolt-action that uses standard AR mags. Finally I saw one in a store. I picked it up, handled it for about 30 seconds, then gave it right back to the salesman. The stock feels like balsa wood. That looks like it was hand spray-painted with Krylon. The bolt wobbles sloppily when you retract it. And part of the design to allow it to use AR mags is this little frail-feeling dingle-fobby that hangs down into the mag area to help guide the rounds into the chamber. That dingle-fobby feels so cheaply made that I'd be surprised if it lasts 5 minutes before breaking.

    Such a cool concept. Such a poor execution (IMHO). Hopefully they have beefed up or changed the design since they first came out. But I would not recommend buying one sight-unseen without actually handling it and giving it a close eyeballing of all the little details.
     
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    Ruger makes their scout rifle in 5.56 also. Now that is a strong built detachable mag fed bolt action.
     
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    Had the Mossberg Patrol in .308, was accurate and a strong rifle. Only got rid of it to get my Winchester 1873 45Colt.
     
  9. Sep 9, 2019 #39

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    This. I haven't liked any of the Mossberg bolt guns I've handled or shot. The .270 Patriot was best of the bunch and it was functional at best. The Ruger is a better option...
     
  10. Sep 9, 2019 #40

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    OK. So I finally have the solution...but only if you are already an AR-15 owner.

    Buy an AR15 Kali Key + BCG Bundle. Then, you just remove your factory charging handle and bolt carrier, and replace them with the Kalikey, and you have immediately converted what was a semi-automatic AR-15 rifle into an AR-15 platform bolt action rifle. Genius. Great for training purposes, even if there is no ban put into effect.

     
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  11. Sep 9, 2019 #41

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    I am both impressed and horrified that such a device exists.
     
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    Can you elaborate? Are you horrified because people might use it for improper purposes?
     
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    I kept thinking that this might help quiet your firearm if you were shooting a can, say with .300 Blackout.
     
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    Mossberg 20 gage, 18 inch barrel.
     
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    I am impressed at the engineering and horrified at the constitutional infringement that would even require such an invention.
     
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    Browning A bolt in 257 Roberts.
    Remington 700 custom in 358 Winchester.
    Remington 03A3 in 30-06.
    Thompson Contender in 30-30, 7mm, 223, 357 Maximum (super magnum).
    Mossberg 500 ATP8 12 ga.
    I can cover ranges from 0 to 800 yards.
     
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  17. Oct 9, 2019 at 1:20 PM #47

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    In Australia they are marketing a rifle that is semi-semi-auto. They have adapted a semi-auto to have the bolt hold open after each round. There is a bolt release next to your thumb. You pull the trigger, hit the bolt release, lather, rinse repeat. It is finger, thumb, finger, thumb, finger, thumb and rather quick. I've been trying to remember the name but no cigar. Since you have to manually operate the bolt it gets around their semi-auto laws.
     
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  18. Oct 9, 2019 at 3:55 PM #48

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    The Verney-Carron Speedline.

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  19. Oct 9, 2019 at 5:07 PM #49

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    Thanks Sentry, that's the one. Here is a video of it being shot.
     
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  20. Oct 10, 2019 at 5:37 PM #50

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    Yesterday, while we were in town, I looked at a Henry stainless steel in 45-70, told the salesman I'd like to get one in .44 mag and he looked it up, gulp, nearly $800, that may be a bit hard to get by my wife, but I'd like to have a companion to my .44 Redhawk.
     
  21. Oct 10, 2019 at 6:37 PM #51

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    Caribou,
    What do they start at?
     
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  22. Oct 10, 2019 at 7:42 PM #52

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    I'm wanting one of the Henry big boys myself. Just haven't made my mind up which one yet. I'm leaning toward a .41 or a .44.
     
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  23. Oct 10, 2019 at 7:47 PM #53

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    If you are referring to the Verney-Carron I don't think they are available in the US, only Europe and Australia.
     
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    Yes, & I have to add $4000.oo for the round trip ticket to Australia.
     
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  25. Oct 10, 2019 at 10:39 PM #55

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    In this situation it would be for survival and feeding my family. It would have to be my T/C Encore. I can get a barrel in just about any cartridge I want. I can switch it from rifle to pistol to shotgun to muzzle loader. Right now I am hunting it as a pistol with a 15" .30-06 barrel. The recoil is not as bad as imagined.

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    Sorry, no clue. I believe that they come out of Europe and are made for the Australian market due to their laws.
     
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  27. Oct 14, 2019 at 4:18 PM #57

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    I am still big on a shotgun for home protection, but a 30 30 is a good all around rifle.
     
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  28. Oct 14, 2019 at 4:50 PM #58

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    Any or all of:

    Marlin .44 or .357 lever gun
    Ruger #1 in a cartridge from the .308 family
    Ruger scout rifle
    CZ .22 rifle
    Ithaca 37 12 guage slug gun (I already have a smoothbore Deerslayer)
    Savage 220 20 guage slug gun
    A pre 1980s Ithaca 37 12 guage bird gun
     
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