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we don't really have mules in the UK so the next best thing is a donkey, they aren't widespread but there are a few around here plus a few smaller ponies, there is a donkey sanctuary on the South Devon coast.
 
It looks like with a few simple hand tools you could remove wheels and wheel brackets ? and make it a sled, a tall thin tire usually works well in mud just like on a 4x4 vehicle, the thin wheels cause less resistance than wide tires, a thin tire will cut through where a wide tire will try and push stuff ahead of it creating resistance, If the mud gets too deep neither one will work very well, wider works best when you need flotation like on sand...a small block and pulley like people use to hang animals would be a good addition to keep with trailer just in case...
Small comealong may work too
 
Just pondering this subject. Pictured all the refugees after WWII and what they used, which was everything on wheels. You can go a long way using whatever is at hand. Baby buggies, wheelbarrows, primitive carts, wagons, caisson, mule packs, in snow covered areas, sleds of all types. I don't know if there is one perfect all around manual hauling apparatus. If you had to hand pack out 100 pounds of water or food or materials of whatever kind for 7 miles how would you do it? It depends on the temperature, the terrain and your health and what you were going to be hauling.
If I had to pick something. I would choose something with large diameter thin wheels, 2 wheeled and with a harness for a human, if hilly some sort of brake to keep myself from getting rolled over. Absolutely must be light weight.
 
Just pondering this subject. Pictured all the refugees after WWII and what they used, which was everything on wheels. You can go a long way using whatever is at hand. Baby buggies, wheelbarrows, primitive carts, wagons, caisson, mule packs, in snow covered areas, sleds of all types. I don't know if there is one perfect all around manual hauling apparatus. If you had to hand pack out 100 pounds of water or food or materials of whatever kind for 7 miles how would you do it? It depends on the temperature, the terrain and your health and what you were going to be hauling.
If I had to pick something. I would choose something with large diameter thin wheels, 2 wheeled and with a harness for a human, if hilly some sort of brake to keep myself from getting rolled over. Absolutely must be light weight.

Hand pulled cargo trailers with 27 inch Mountain bike wheels with puncture proof tyres are popular in Europe
 
Just want to note, not disputing the efficiency chart, but it was produced by a bike company.

If I am rolling an armored personnel carrier armed with a 20mm cannon, not sure a ten speed is trading up.

Its about efficiency rather than what it can carry, if you look at what is needed to move that truck compared to the bicycle :)
 
I get it SE, but man. That APC? I don't know how you leave that unless it dies or runs out of gas.

I did a pretty decent trip once on a bike, something like one hundred sixty miles, and I had some issues. The rear carrier slipped and rubbed on the tire, chain would come off sometimes, flats, someone thoughtfully dropped some four by four posts into a few muskrat holes in the trail, and I nailed one in the dark and about broke my hand.

It was tough going, and I was racing Mountain bikes at the time. I rode a lot, thirty miles was nothing. With a pack, and a couple bags... exhausting.

I won't lie, or argue just for the sake of arguing, if I was walking and came across a working bike, I'm on it you bet.

Same goes for anything really. Anything rolling can only help.
 
I'm a life long infantryman, I will always walk :) unless my BOV is available :) for me cyclists of all flavours are a blight on englands roads.:)
 
there not cyclists, we call them "bondage fairies"!!they are a pain in the arse, I had to drive around loads of them only this morning.
 
I get it SE, but man. That APC? I don't know how you leave that unless it dies or runs out of gas.

I did a pretty decent trip once on a bike, something like one hundred sixty miles, and I had some issues. The rear carrier slipped and rubbed on the tire, chain would come off sometimes, flats, someone thoughtfully dropped some four by four posts into a few muskrat holes in the trail, and I nailed one in the dark and about broke my hand.

It was tough going, and I was racing Mountain bikes at the time. I rode a lot, thirty miles was nothing. With a pack, and a couple bags... exhausting.

I won't lie, or argue just for the sake of arguing, if I was walking and came across a working bike, I'm on it you bet.

Same goes for anything really. Anything rolling can only help.
This is off subject a little but Dad was telling me a story yesterday of how he and 2 others got to town on one bike. Two kids rode and one walked 1/3 way, the bikers stopped waited on kid number three to catch up, then they traded and two rode 1/3 and waited, etc. That way each kid only had to walk 1/3 of the way, it was gravel so pulling someone was not an option when there were no other wheeled devices. Funny story. it would have been about 5 miles total.
 
You wouldn't be able to post a photo of one would you? It'd be cool to see.
Ill try, used have have one archived..


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Try as I might I cannot find the picture of the one we bought when we were on holiday about 18 years ago, it had mountain bike wheel, rubber block suspension and a waist harness.

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That carry handle, behind the gas tank. All sharp machined aluminum, just waiting for you to slip off the seat on a big bump so it can utterly destroy your nuts.

In other photos taken at different angles it doesnt look so lethal and could actually be a nylon grab
 
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check out this video on youtube.
"making an 18th century Welsh drag cart" by Keith H. Burgess.
Keep It Simple.( we wont have access to welding gear post SHTF).
 
I think I could have chopped through that quicker with my Ka-Bar, LOL!

Bigpaul, the American Indians used something almost exactly the same, called a "travois." They never got around to inventing the wheel, LOL. Although they had enough sense to let dogs or ponies pull them. :)
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yes, I knew about a travois at school...….a long long time ago!
 
Toboggans, mules and horse and human powered wagons have been used for centuries. Wheel carts are only useful relatively flat grounds that’s not affected by center gravity and weather dependent, muddy fields not so much. They do have toboggans with wheel attachment that the wheels can be removed (attaching from the top keeping the bottom smooth)
 
check out this video on youtube.
"making an 18th century Welsh drag cart" by Keith H. Burgess.
Keep It Simple.( we wont have access to welding gear post SHTF).

DC stick welding is a thing. You can do it with a car battery, and the right stick welder.

I haven't used one, but they make a DC only stick welder, meant to run off batteries, they use them for Jeeps, and offroad repairs. It makes sure you don't die when your battery explodes. Come to think of it, I should see what they cost, I would love to have one, and a box of sixty ten and seventy eighteen, just in case.

Without something to control the amps, your right, bigpaul, welding is out.
 
DC stick welding is a thing. You can do it with a car battery, and the right stick welder.

I haven't used one, but they make a DC only stick welder, meant to run off batteries, they use them for Jeeps, and offroad repairs. It makes sure you don't die when your battery explodes. Come to think of it, I should see what they cost, I would love to have one, and a box of sixty ten and seventy eighteen, just in case.

Without something to control the amps, your right, bigpaul, welding is out.
i'm out in the British countryside so i'm looking at more natural materials.
 

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