So you want your cake and eat it too. You disagree with home schooling but admit public schools sucks. How about a voucher program where the parents get to pick public or private, does that work for you?
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So you want your cake and eat it too. You disagree with home schooling but admit public schools sucks. How about a voucher program where the parents get to pick public or private, does that work for you?
I agree.
I often feel like the token liberal on this forum, but I do not approve of how violent criminals get out of jail with minimum sentences. Rapists, murderers, pedophiles, and drug dealers should stay in prison for life.....with no parole, no probabtion, no work release.
And prison shouldn't be a country club, either.
What would work for me is for people to do their jobs like their supposed to.
If parents, teachers, and politicians did their jobs, then the public school system wouldn't be a nightmare.
As for me wanting my cake and eating it too.....I think that's an unfair criticism.
I would compare my statements about the principle of home schooling to the idea of a devout Hassidic Jew stranded on a desert island that only has pigs living on it.
A devout Jew in such a circumstance might be opposed to eating pork in principle, but will--regardless of religion--kill and eat a pig if the alternative is slow starvation.
I tried to communicate that I would be open to home schooling even if I was opposed in principle, and I don't think this makes me a hypocrite.
Why should a tax payer pay to house and feed violent criminals? By the time most of these criminals see the inside of a prison, they already have long rap sheets. I would much rather spend that money of children, senior citizens or our disabled VETs. Look up how much it costs to feed and house a state or federal prisoner. Too many better usages for those funds.
Ok. Point taken.
So what do we do? Let them free?
How about making them work on something profitable so that the money can be applied to supporting them?
Kevin, very weak analogy. One is a life threatening event and the other is a life style choice. You can do better, give it another shot. Public, Private or Home schooling, why not allow the parents to choose, with the funding allocated and collected by the taxes.
I think education is a matter of life and death.
Lack of education kills people. Stupidity and gullibility kill people.
As I said, I may be opposed in principle, but the public schools are so f----ed up in so many ways that I understand why people do home schooling.
I never said that I have a better answer.
We execute them! Violent predators are not worth the time and effort to imprison. Their life (prisoner) has no more value that the life of the person they attacked. When has the government been able to run any program and make a profit. A women raped or attacked will never feel totally safe again. A molested child will never feel completely safe again. The predator has taken a very precious feeling from these people and it will never be replaced. Serving life is just a huge waste of time and space and with the changing of politics, you can not be sure they will not be released in the future.
Kevin, you never said you had a better answer but you do put down other options. I noticed you did not state if you are okay with funding these other options with the same public money we give to the system you admitted are F--- ed up schools. Education is very important but it does not have to be supplied by the pubic school system. using your island analogy, if there was pork and fish to consume, which does the Jew select? The way to solve any problem is to look at ALL the options, not just the failed options.
now this is only for those caught in the act,,,,,,no trial no waiting a bullet to the head and a quick trip to the landfill ,,,,,,they are not worth the cost of a funeral ,,,it might just act as a deterrent to future violent acts,,,I would go so far as to make it a public execution,,,,,
I was home schooled and I think that education is not something that can be forced. It is something that has to be wanted and encouraged.
My siblings and I were taught to read, encouraged to do so, and then encouraged to think for ourselves about what we learned. Of course, we all had to learn the basics of reading, writing, history, math, and science, but we were allowed to choose what we enjoyed and learn more about those topics to focus on. We built things around the house, programmed computers, planted gardens, made model rockets, went hiking and camping, and did many other activities that my parents used to teach us about the world around us. Any time we did something, we learned the science behind it, the history of it, etc. - the bigger picture of how everything fits into the world. We spent very little time with "school" but most all the time we were learning. This is how I learned to love freedom and learning and saw first hand how the world works.
I believe that the problems is not what type of school children attend (whether public, private, or home school) but a lack of parental concern when it comes to learning and education. Parents who have the means and desire to home school their kids can and absolutely should do so. However, if the parents don't give a s--t about their kids' education, sitting in a one-size-fits-all school five days a week nine months out of the year isn't likely to inspire children to want to learn or succeed in the world.
Kevin, I think you're making the argument for home schooling better than I can! Every point you make applies more to public schools that home schoolers. Brainwashing? Public schools. Abuse? Like teachers having sex with the students? Team players, such as gang members in public schools? Impartial, like teachers who couldn't care less? And finally 'professional', like the school maximizing their grant money and passing kids along who can't read... sounds like prostitutes not professionals.
Nope. Sorry, Brent has that job.
Please note that I indicated that public schools are so f----ed up, that I understand why people homeschool.
I'm opposed to the death penalty in principle......but when my ambulance company had a contract with the prison, I transported a psychopath who killed, sexually molested, and ate (yes, I said ate) several (over 15) little boys between the ages of 4 and seven. I can't be more specific, as I have legal obligations relating to patient confidentiality, even though this person (a term of convienence, if not entirely accurate) is dead from organ failure.
I will admit--to my great shame--that I was tempted to wonder how vigorously I would use my paramedic skills to save his life if a medical crisis occurred.
And as opposed as I am to the death penalty, I certainly think that we should have made an exception in his case.....and I'd be the first to throw the switch on the electric chair.
I may be opposed to something in principle, but that doesn't make me a hypocrite if circumstances back me into a corner and I compromise toward what I perceive as the lesser of two evils.
As to my example with the criminal I mentioned?
I want to believe that I'm a human first, and everything in me about being a human (forget human--just being a mammal) says that someone who does something like this must die.
