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Sourdough said:
It is an ANALOGY, for everything (not just driving).

The best example I can quickly think of is: Those driving the direction of America. Nobody likes where America is going, but we ain't driving, and unless you are a quad-billionaire you're not likely to move to a different country.
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The analogy seems to be derived from stoic philosophy here's a quote from epictetus, there there are many variatons and versions of this concept from the stoics.

"The chief task in life is simply this: to identify and separate matters so that I can say clearly to myself which are externals not under my control, and which have to do with the choices I actually control."
 
Canon29 said:
The analogy seems to be derived from stoic philosophy here's a quote from epictetus, there there are many variatons and versions of this concept from the stoics.

"The chief task in life is simply this: to identify and separate matters so that I can say clearly to myself which are externals not under my control, and which have to do with the choices I actually control."
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Actually It is called mind over matter
If you don't mind, it don't matter
 
Frodo said:
Actually It is called mind over matter
If you don't mind, it don't matter
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Mmm.. 🤔 Sure, that's a nice 'self-insulating take' on it, but.. Lots of 'happenings' in the world, that - while we make take the attitude of 'Ehh, Live and Let Live' - ie: what the Zommunist PTB (powers that be) have 'done' in fomenting the destruction of Societally-Healthy sexual norms / morality 'guardrails', as a nefarious means of eroding the Family-unit - towards the goal of subjugating Everyone ('1984-style' Totalitarian Control, Everywhere..) - is Clearly "a Problem" - even if, to Some out there (Not suggesting You feel this way, Fro :cool: ) - that 'don't matter to Me'.

ie: Homosex is a Societal Dead-End ("population control") if nothing else - That's a Problem which 'matters', even though some people feel 'Ehh, what people do behind closed doors doesn't 'bother me'. Eventually, that decay Will negatively impact All to-whom it 'didn't matter'.

I could go On and On with examples of things that some may not "mind" - but that Definitely 'matter' in Life, but.. Only Point being, I see the 'Live and Let Live philosophy' being distinctly Different from what Canon posted. Somewhat correlated, but I still see an important distinction.

..At least that's just my Tequila-infused .02. ;)
jd
 
Thinking about the merger of DDPFs and us, I don't see a lot of issues, but I do see a major divergence in priorities, sorta of a chicken little meets Elmer Fudd. One group seems overly focused on a MAD MAX future while the other group is more focused on how can I run my garden and keep my livestock fed. Everyone seems to want to survive/thrive under what ever future the world holds for us.

Both groups have common ground but a slightly different focus.

My main concern is the "Crazy" image the the Dooms Day Prepper TV series gave to the community as a whole and the extra scrutiny that attracts from leftist LE-organizations (didn't want to confuse with LEO's who are just people doing a job under crazy leadership)...

I think that having members only area for each group would be good to help reduce some of the exposure issues. I would also love to be able to go back and delete some posts that may be taken out of context in the future.
 
UrbanHunter said:
Thinking about the merger of DDPFs and us, I don't see a lot of issues, but I do see a major divergence in priorities, sorta of a chicken little meets Elmer Fudd. One group seems overly focused on a MAD MAX future while the other group is more focused on how can I run my garden and keep my livestock fed. Everyone seems to want to survive/thrive under what ever future the world holds for us.
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Good points UrbanHunter! Well thought out and succinct. Personally, I think the priorities are very much the same…to survive what is upon us and might possibly be coming. One might be thinking, what is upon us? Rule of Law is quickly breaking down. One example is the burning of cities and murder of police officers by antifa and blm…with very few consequences. But old Grandmas who dared walk through an open door on Jan 6 are in prison! Home prices and Rental prices skyrocketing. Food doing the same. The current tactics to take our ability to grow our own gardens and raise our own meat are coming against us. At the end of the day, we AMERICANS are all in the same boat. We make it or sink Together.

My prayers go up daily for all of us.
 
SoJer said:
Mmm.. 🤔 Sure, that's a nice 'self-insulating take' on it, but.. Lots of 'happenings' in the world, that - while we make take the attitude of 'Ehh, Live and Let Live' - ie: what the Zommunist PTB (powers that be) have 'done' in fomenting the destruction of Societally-Healthy sexual norms / morality 'guardrails', as a nefarious means of eroding the Family-unit - towards the goal of subjugating Everyone ('1984-style' Totalitarian Control, Everywhere..) - is Clearly "a Problem" - even if, to Some out there (Not suggesting You feel this way, Fro :cool: ) - that 'don't matter to Me'.

ie: Homosex is a Societal Dead-End ("population control") if nothing else - That's a Problem which 'matters', even though some people feel 'Ehh, what people do behind closed doors doesn't 'bother me'. Eventually, that decay Will negatively impact All to-whom it 'didn't matter'.

I could go On and On with examples of things that some may not "mind" - but that Definitely 'matter' in Life, but.. Only Point being, I see the 'Live and Let Live philosophy' being distinctly Different from what Canon posted. Somewhat correlated, but I still see an important distinction.

..At least that's just my Tequila-infused .02. ;)
jd
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lol. I see your Tequila and raise you a Bourbon
What I quoted is just a saying it is not my belief on big issues. If you look at my posts I rarely get deep down in the psyche Kinda afraid of what I might find their
 
Frodo said:
lol. I see your Tequila and raise you a Bourbon
What I quoted is just a saying it is not my belief on big issues...
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x2.. err, a Few moar.. Aww, heck, Who's counting.. 🤪🤭

jd
 
Somewhere in this thread, Proud Prepper or DrHenley said the name of the forum was there when they joined. So they did not choose the name. So, don't hold that against anyone. And as we are seeing, many of the active there are already here. We just never needed to notice before.

And as for forum names, this is Homesteading and Country Living, but it's a lot about being prepared for things that happen. (weather, government, loss of work, CME, EMP, etc.) This just happened at the beginning due to so many of our friends coming from PS.

You do not need to be a Homesteader or Country Live, but your mind can be in aspects of that, or Prepping or Surviving conditions. My only real example of surviving by being prepped was April 27th 2011 and the months afterwards. Massive tornados came through and wiped out an Aunt and Uncle's home, put aunt in hospital for a month and 3 weeks rehab and no home or husband to go back to. Uncle was killed by the tornado. One of 9 in this area. We had six days of no power at home. I was able to use cell phone for hot spot, text messages to let cousins know their Dad was dead, Mom in hospital., I was able to charge phone and netbook off dash board AC in a Pontiac Vibe. There were a lot of funeral home, hospital , insurance, FEMA stuff I was working with for Aunt during that time. I did loose everything in frig, but had enough to eat and a small way to cook and oil lamps and flashlights.

So survival is many things and many conditions. You don't have to live on a Homestead or live in the Country. Heck, I'm now in an apartment looking to move back to a little home of some type in the country again.

You are welcome (and yes, there is a political discussion area that is not visible to those that cannot access it.)
 
Swing said:
Somewhere in this thread, Proud Prepper or DrHenley said the name of the forum was there when they joined. So they did not choose the name. So, don't hold that against anyone. And as we are seeing, many of the active there are already here. We just never needed to notice before.

And as for forum names, this is Homesteading and Country Living, but it's a lot about being prepared for things that happen. (weather, government, loss of work, CME, EMP, etc.) This just happened at the beginning due to so many of our friends coming from PS.

You do not need to be a Homesteader or Country Live, but your mind can be in aspects of that, or Prepping or Surviving conditions. My only real example of surviving by being prepped was April 27th 2011 and the months afterwards. Massive tornados came through and wiped out an Aunt and Uncle's home, put aunt in hospital for a month and 3 weeks rehab and no home or husband to go back to. Uncle was killed by the tornado. One of 9 in this area. We had six days of no power at home. I was able to use cell phone for hot spot, text messages to let cousins know their Dad was dead, Mom in hospital., I was able to charge phone and netbook off dash board AC in a Pontiac Vibe. There were a lot of funeral home, hospital , insurance, FEMA stuff I was working with for Aunt during that time. I did loose everything in frig, but had enough to eat and a small way to cook and oil lamps and flashlights.

So survival is many things and many conditions. You don't have to live on a Homestead or live in the Country. Heck, I'm now in an apartment looking to move back to a little home of some type in the country again.

You are welcome (and yes, there is a political discussion area that is not visible to those that cannot access it.)
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Sorry about your Uncle, I remember those tornados, can't imagine seeing that kind of devastation!! We have gone through many times of days without power due to ice storms! Worst was five days! Thanks to the wood stove and generator we didn't miss a beat!! I did have to siphon gas out of my truck the last day for the generator! Being ready for disaster and knowing how to do things is incredibly important! Great post Swing, disaster can happen SO FAST!!
 
Cabin Fever said:
So, what happen at the PS forum? Was it combined with this forum? Did it collapse?
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A 2nd new purchase and a new admin from what members have said. They migrated. But any of them can fill you in.
 
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Amish Heart said:
Some preppers are city dwellers and just store stuff they bought.
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My food preps are all stuff that I bought. During a disaster I simply would not have fresh (I don't live on a farm) or frozen food (assuming electricity for the freezer is gone). It would all be canned or dried. And none of it would be canned or dried by me personally (maybe some jerky, but that's about it). Home canned can be better than commercially canned - in taste and nutrition. But it's still vastly inferior in taste to fresh or frozen IMHO. Canning is a way to make something last longer. It's not a way make it better. Del Monte, Libby, Kuners and several other brands do all the canning for me.

I am not apologetic that I don't have home canned preps and buy my stuff instead. Simply because I don't can them myself and don't trust others to do it, outside of commercial establishments. Just like I will shoot reloads that I have reloaded myself, but I won't shoot ammo reloaded by others (unless I know them, their knowledge, their competence, and their demeanor well).
 
Haertig said:
I am not apologetic that I don't have home canned preps and buy my stuff instead.
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Totally agree. Although I do home can my own meats, I also have plenty of commercially canned meat - and very glad for it. And it's easier to tuck a few cans of Kirkland chicken into my sons' cabinets rather than mason jars.
 
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