got two new orphan kids today just a couple hours old

[judy mayes]

got two brand new ophan kids today just a few hours old did miolk out the dam and tube fed her two babies colostrum and some other colostrum also and bar guard ,b complex and bo-se they had a rattle and were very poor condition but are becomming more strong still cannot walk one is trying har and wanting to suck the other is lagging behind some she had mor fluid in her ...can anyone offer anything else i can do or give them ...would an antibiotic help now ?
Judy

 

[Meerkat]

Sounds like your doing all you can for them, maybe they weak one will come around soon.:thumbs up:

 

[judy mayes]

Sounds like your doing all you can for them, maybe they weak one will come around soon.:thumbs up:

Sounds like your doing all you can for them, maybe they weak one will come around soon.:thumbs up:

thank you ,i hope so there both nursing the bottle now .

 

[LastO]

Ive had some that couldn't walk for a few days. The BoSe should help. Stand them occasionally and let them build their leg muscles. Be careful with the BoSe.. I think they can get too much.

 

[Terri9630]

How much Bo SE did you give? You can give to much. What type of b complex did you give? Shot or oral/paste?

 

[judy mayes]

the one still cant walk and will not nurse this morning and slightly shaking and the other ones front legs almost knee over there were three must be a muscle weakness and suggestions
fortified b complex 1/4 cc inj how often to use fortified b complex ?

 

[judy mayes]

How much Bo SE did you give? You can give to much. What type of b complex did you give? Shot or oral/paste?

1/2 cc injection of bo-se and 1/4 cc injection fortified b cpmplex

 

[judy mayes]

got an newborn orphan kid two days ago and she cant walk front legs they are over at the knee and bowed ,needing know people think of splinting for a few days them putting on the other leg ?
she has had all necessary vit inj .

 

[LastO]

@judy mayes What is the temp of the one who is not eating? Temp must be close to normal before food.
You may also try to take some vit E and squirt it into their mouths.
If they don't eat you may have to tube feed them.

I got this from Onion Creek goats:
http://www.tennesseemeatgoats.com/articles2/goatmedications.html
Fortified Vitamin B Complex - Over-the-counter product. This product can be used instead of Thiamine since it has 100 mg/ml thiamine in it. Products without "fortified" in the label have inadequate levels of thiamine. If such products must be used, then the dosage must be increased to achieve a thiamine level of 100 mg/ml. Example: If the product has only 25 mg/ml thiamine, then the dosage given must be multiplied by four. B vitamins are water soluble; a healthy rumen produces B vitamins daily. Dosage is 4 cc per 100 pounds bodyweight.

There is a goat forum on Facebook that is awesome and full of very knowledgeable people as far as goat illnesses and remedies. if you use facebook look for "Sucessful Goatng with Rosie". Join that group and post your questions there. They are amazing at being helpful and will stick with you throughout the problem.

Do not splint weak legs. They need to build muscle. Stand them off and on and hold them up. Help them stand and build muscle.

 

[LastO]

What are you feeding them in their bottles? If it is a mix you might try whole cows milk. Mine never want the mix stuff but they seem to like the whole cows milk.

Here is info on tubing a kid:
http://goat-link.com/content/view/26/78/#.V80uF_krLIU

 

[judy mayes]

@judy mayes What is the temp of the one who is not eating? Temp must be close to normal before food.
You may also try to take some vit E and squirt it into their mouths.
If they don't eat you may have to tube feed them.

I got this from Onion Creek goats:
http://www.tennesseemeatgoats.com/articles2/goatmedications.html
Fortified Vitamin B Complex - Over-the-counter product. This product can be used instead of Thiamine since it has 100 mg/ml thiamine in it. Products without "fortified" in the label have inadequate levels of thiamine. If such products must be used, then the dosage must be increased to achieve a thiamine level of 100 mg/ml. Example: If the product has only 25 mg/ml thiamine, then the dosage given must be multiplied by four. B vitamins are water soluble; a healthy rumen produces B vitamins daily. Dosage is 4 cc per 100 pounds bodyweight.

There is a goat forum on Facebook that is awesome and full of very knowledgeable people as far as goat illnesses and remedies. if you use facebook look for "Sucessful Goatng with Rosie". Join that group and post your questions there. They are amazing at being helpful and will stick with you throughout the problem.

Do not splint weak legs. They need to build muscle. Stand them off and on and hold them up. Help them stand and build muscle.

thank you Judy

 

[judy mayes]

What are you feeding them in their bottles? If it is a mix you might try whole cows milk. Mine never want the mix stuff but they seem to like the whole cows milk.

Here is info on tubing a kid:
http://goat-link.com/content/view/26/78/#.V80uF_krLIU

thank you judy

 

[LastO]

thank you judy

You are welcome. I'm no expert by any means and in fact @Terri9630 helped me with sick kids and goats in the past and led me to the goat group in Facebook for info.

 

[LastO]

@judy mayes any progress updates?

 

[LastO]

@judy mayes any updates on your kids status?

 

[judy mayes]

@judy mayes any updates on your kids status?

seem to improved today can stand snd nursing pretty wewll
judy

 

[judy mayes]

does anyone use bio mycin i need to know if its used once a day or twice ?
Judy

 

[judy mayes]

they was born ,wet and very weak i got her warmed up and gave her mothers colostrum and bo-se and she couldnt walk she is stronger can stand but takes a couple steps and falls can anyone suggest anything i can give her or do for her ? The other one always walked better.
Judy

 

[judy mayes]

What are you feeding them in their bottles? If it is a mix you might try whole cows milk. Mine never want the mix stuff but they seem to like the whole cows milk.

Here is info on tubing a kid:
http://goat-link.com/content/view/26/78/#.V80uF_krLIU

goat milkand nursing a bttle

 

[LastO]

does anyone use bio mycin i need to know if its used once a day or twice ?
Judy

Judy I have never used that antibiotic. I use penG or LA200.
Sounds like they are improving. is the weaker one standing on her own or standng then falling? Sounds like she may be getting her leg muscles built a bit. I hold mine on their legs and let them stand as I kind of hold them up. I do that a few times a day to build their muscles. They should be getting milk at least 4 times per day when they are real young. They should be getting 20% of their body weight if from a bottle. If you think they are too weak you can give them some magic juice. It is Karo syrup with some corn oil and some molasses. I have given them a squirt of nutridrench at times when I thought they need a bit of a boost if you have any.