Everything here is false, it does not help me out at all. Its all part of the deception to get peopke like yourself to support there socialists agenda.
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Everything here is false, it does not help me out at all. Its all part of the deception to get peopke like yourself to support there socialists agenda.
If a socialist agenda gives health care to all our citizens, then I guess I am one, and so are nearly every first world country...ok, some searching found 33 developed countries, and 32 of them have a form of universal health care. It lowers the cost of health care, and everyone is covered, no insurance to deal with... why do you hate it so much on principle? It seems to me a win win. Does it matter what label you slap on it? I have health insurance, and I probably can pay for it after I retire, but if we all can have coverage, especially for the same or less than what we are already paying, why not?
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Your logic is sound and I agree. Your belief that everything is as it seems is flawed.
Just take care of your colon my friend. It is pretty handy to have a healthy one and a nightmare if it isn't.
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Got another call from the CDC today. They went back 6 months concerning my travels, surgeries, cancer, antibiotics and probiotics.
Oh well. I didn't eat any romaine.
Oh well. I didn't eat any romaine.
Aviva Chomsky. Noam Chomsky's daughter...
Lol. I'm sure she has no agenda.
If you truly believe that the US can't even produce enough food to affordably feed itself without resorting to nearly slave labor in the form of non resident migrant workers, then you don't understand farming, either large scale or small scale cooperatives.
Farm down the road, the Father (since passed away) employed 3 local guys. Farm was nice, he had trucks, nothing fancy. Put his son through college, and a daughter, I don't know where she is now.
Now the college educated son runs the farm, and employs a crew of maybe 10 (I don't know the exact number) of Mexican workers. The son has multiple brand new trucks, Gators, quads, 40 foot luxury 5th wheel camper, goes to Mexico all the time on vacation...
The Mexican workers all live in a tiny ass house across the field, all together. They don't seem to drive, except farm use trucks. I don't know what they do tbh, except hang out in their slave quarters after work.
The most help goes to poor rural white folks? Where? I need to move there, I'm poor and rural and white and I get Jack **** from the government.
Studies with an agenda produce the results intended. Pay me enough money and I can rig, err, extrapolate, the data to match the paid for results.
I don't know how insurance used to be, but I just turned 26 this year and had to get my own insurance for the first time. Fortunately my employer offers insurance - my portion of the premiums is just over $100/month. But the deductible is $6000 (which is also the "out of pocket maximum"). Because I have a high-deductible health plan, I can open a "health savings account" where I can put "tax-free" money, but only up to $3500/year. . . So I agree healthcare kind of sucks.
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Can't imagine $100 per month. We pay $2000.
Wow, that's. . . a lot. I guess the Affordable in "Affordable Care Act" doesn't apply to everyone. Health insurance is a mess
. I only get the most basic plan and since I'm single/no dependents it's cheaper, but I can't even imagine paying that much.
Right? When I was working as a millwright, mine was just under a grand.
Now, I just have to hope whatever happens just turns me off like a light.
Standing there one second, next second off to sleep.
Seriously, if it was at all possible for everyone to get out of insurance what they put in, it wouldn't be feasible. Insurance companies would go broke.
Universal healthcare, same thing. More people have to pay, fewer people have to collect, or it's just more debt.
I'm guessing that those who think it's a fine idea, are not planning on being the paying party in this transaction.
Now, I just have to hope whatever happens just turns me off like a light.
Standing there one second, next second off to sleep.
Seriously, if it was at all possible for everyone to get out of insurance what they put in, it wouldn't be feasible. Insurance companies would go broke.
Universal healthcare, same thing. More people have to pay, fewer people have to collect, or it's just more debt.
I'm guessing that those who think it's a fine idea, are not planning on being the paying party in this transaction.
Wow, that's. . . a lot. I guess the Affordable in "Affordable Care Act" doesn't apply to everyone. Health insurance is a mess
Your single? Why? Something wrong with ya?
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Lol, yeah I'm a bad person.
Might as well check out the sense of humor right from the start, see if she is someone I can banter with.
Might as well check out the sense of humor right from the start, see if she is someone I can banter with.
Who says something has to be wrong with a person for them to be single? Who says it's not something wrong with everyone else around them?
And Of course I understand that I'm not going to "get out of insurance what I put into it" - but I think the government regulations surrounding the issue just make a lot of things even worse. Seriously - is there any other service like that where it is prohibited to shop across state lines?
ACA was not unilaterally implemented... and not equally, for sure. I have no problem paying into a system that is universally implemented fairly. And I don’t use much healthcare..
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I'm... semi single? I guess? And there's definitely something wrong with me.
I can't read anything into your post, possibility of enjoyable banter remains an unknown quantity.
As far as insurance, health or automotive, I didn't like it when my parents made me eat brussel sprouts. We're they good for me? Sure!
I don't like it when the government forces me to do anything, even if it's good for me, even if it's good for EVERYONE.
And I'm not just saying it to sound stupid, I mean it. I draw a line with the government, and take the fines, and cut off my nose to spite my face to prove a point.
Things like that, maybe why I'm semi single.
I'm... semi single? I guess? And there's definitely something wrong with me.
I can't read anything into your post, possibility of enjoyable banter remains an unknown quantity.
As far as insurance, health or automotive, I didn't like it when my parents made me eat brussel sprouts. We're they good for me? Sure!
I don't like it when the government forces me to do anything, even if it's good for me, even if it's good for EVERYONE.
And I'm not just saying it to sound stupid, I mean it. I draw a line with the government, and take the fines, and cut off my nose to spite my face to prove a point.
Things like that, maybe why I'm semi single.
Wow, 'universally implemented fairly'. On what planet? When one group gets most of their insurance paid and other groups get nothing? When insurance has gone up 5x in the past 10 years. Where in any of that do you see 'fair'.
And I'll echo Robin's statement. We have no 'pre-existing conditions', and the last quote I got was $1500/month with $10k deductible. And I would get zero gov't help.
Everything you said sounds like common sense to me; I don't see anything stupid about it. It's called freedom. As one of the few politicians I can stand once said, "I don't want my marriage or my guns registered in Washington." (Personally I don't really like guns and I think we've already determined I don't have a marriage, but it's the principle; I'm not going to tell others how to live their lives because of how I choose to live mine.)
You should like guns.
Some are useful tools for getting food, an improvement on tools humans have been using since the dawn of time.
I'm glad you like Freedom, also something humans have been trying, more or less successfully, to enjoy since way, way back.
I'm sorry insurance is a hassle.
Some are useful tools for getting food, an improvement on tools humans have been using since the dawn of time.
I'm glad you like Freedom, also something humans have been trying, more or less successfully, to enjoy since way, way back.
I'm sorry insurance is a hassle.
Hey, no worries, I got a plan for you and YES --- you can keep your Doctor and Yes, if you like your existing plan, you can keep it. Oh, oops, that lie was already used but a past lying President. I got fortunate and by the time the penalty phase started, I had retired and got on Medicare.
You want really good affordable health plans, then allow a set of plans the average citizen can sign up for. Group plan prices without having to work or join a specific company or group. Call it the National American Health Care Group Plan and government can't setup any special regulations to hamper it's savings. Now the real competition for this huge group of people will drive down costs while still maintaining quality timely health care. If an employer with a thousand employees can get a deal, just imagine what a group with a few million would get. This is not rocket science, it is simple math and incentive. Now the bleeding hearts will say what about those with pre-existing conditions. Follow the number folks. Let the government just help that really small number of people and allow all the rest to join the National American Health Care group and save a ton of money, while preserving fast, quality medical treatment, that is actually affordable. JMHO
You want really good affordable health plans, then allow a set of plans the average citizen can sign up for. Group plan prices without having to work or join a specific company or group. Call it the National American Health Care Group Plan and government can't setup any special regulations to hamper it's savings. Now the real competition for this huge group of people will drive down costs while still maintaining quality timely health care. If an employer with a thousand employees can get a deal, just imagine what a group with a few million would get. This is not rocket science, it is simple math and incentive. Now the bleeding hearts will say what about those with pre-existing conditions. Follow the number folks. Let the government just help that really small number of people and allow all the rest to join the National American Health Care group and save a ton of money, while preserving fast, quality medical treatment, that is actually affordable. JMHO
I've tried to like guns. I know I should like them, but I don't, and I don't know how to change that.
Hmmm.
It's a tough call. If you were in a situation where you had to defend yourself, is there anything else you would be comfortable with? If you have that, and your confident it's effective, then maybe you don't need a firearm, or need to like them.
But guns are effective, bar none. They are the "best, last defense".
There's a whole sporting aspect that is a lot of fun, like darts or bowling.
But it's fine. There's a lot to prepping that isn't about guns.
It's a tough call. If you were in a situation where you had to defend yourself, is there anything else you would be comfortable with? If you have that, and your confident it's effective, then maybe you don't need a firearm, or need to like them.
But guns are effective, bar none. They are the "best, last defense".
There's a whole sporting aspect that is a lot of fun, like darts or bowling.
But it's fine. There's a lot to prepping that isn't about guns.
You don't have to like guns. Just respect them and know how to use them. I personally enjoy shooting, not game hunting (don't need the meat) but target and varmint. There is not a requirement to like a tool but one should know how to use it and have it close to hand. Now a fear of firearms is a different subject. Firearms are expensive and if you don't enjoy using them, that is okay, get one or two for self defense and call it good. My plan is to have over a dozen different caliber rifles and a couple different hand guns. Not for self defense but for the fun and challenge of shooting. Can I shoot 3 shots at 100 hundred yards and cover the holes with a dime? Can I hit a 18 inch steel target at 1,000 yards? It is not the love of guns but the challenge to beat my previous best.
I am not a big fan of digging post holes but I do want a fence. Guns are the same, just another tools to accomplish a task that may not be fun but is needed.
My take on guns is I wish we lived in a perfect world where we didn’t have a need for them. The reality is there are a lot of really rotten people in the world. With you being a young woman, on her own in the world, I think it is just a wise thing to have some sort of protection. Guns come with risks for the owner however, so learning about safety and respect for them is a must. Everyone has to live with what they are comfortable with, but I think personal protection, espechially for a woman, is wise. If the economy drops, as so many of us here feel is inevitable, it tends to bring out the worst in a lot of people and I like knowing that the ones I care about are as safe as they can be.
Many countries have government run health care. I don't know that these government run healthcare programs always the best. There are a lot of things you hear from people in those countries that talk about the downside.
One obstacle that other countries haven't had to deal with in creating their own healthcare, is pharmaceutical companies. Politicians keep talking about changing healthcare, but the never talk about taking on the big pharmaceutical companies. These pharmaceutical companies spend millions of dollars on commercials, drug reps, lunches for the entire doctor's office staff etc..and then the American consumer pays $4-$8 per pill sometimes even more. That doesn't happen in other countries.
Here is a website that you can put your doctor's name in and see how much money they have taken from pharmaceutical companies in the way of free lunches and other gifts. https://projects.propublica.org/docdollars/
My doctor is on there for $180.00. He allows only certain reps to bring coffee occasionally. The doctor across the hall from him is on there for almost 10K. Cardiologist and other high paid specialist are even worse.
You might just think by not going to a doctor on the list would solve the problem, but the drug companies pass all that off to you and me in the form of price per pill and Medicare tax dollars.
Here is another recent example of a drug on 60 minutes that cost $80.00 to manufacture, but they charge over $4000.00 for it. You would think that a lot of scripts wouldn't get filled with such a price tag, but the prescriptions for this medication have skyrocketed thanks to bit of a scam the pharmaceutical company is running. If they can do it with this drug, the can do it with others, and in fact they have.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/evzio-...ug-naloxone-with-a-4000-price-tag-60-minutes/
I think we need to fix this before we change the current model..even though the current model isn't a good one. It is easy to look at other countries and say, "Well we could just apply that here." The problem is we aren't are England, Switzerland, Germany or any other place. We are America, and we a have unique set of problems. Unfortunately, we have brought on many of these problems and now they are raging out of control like a California wildfire. I see politicians glossing over some of the biggest troublemakers regarding healthcare cost. They want to take control and implement healthcare programs, but they don't want to tackle the elephant in the room. Once we give way to a government run healthcare, if things go further south, we will have little to no recourse.
I am not for government run health care, and I am also not saying it couldn't work, but it would take many years and it would be a large undertaking to do it correctly.
All I’m certain of is the system is broken now. You go to a dr and end up getting billed from 4 different groups and pay 10times what it should cost. I’m open to any constructive ideas, government run or otherwise.
The system does need to be fixed but nothing run by the government has ever been efficient or cost effective. Medicare for all would be like VA quality medical care for all. Frame it in those terms and see how many will jump at the chance to sigh up. The system can be fixed but it certainly cannot be run / administrated or by fee regulated by the government. Laws mandating once a drug price is set to, must be applied to all countries. No special deals for one country and outlandish prices for another. Insurance companies should be able to competed across state line and group coverage plans can be established. National competition will drop prices. There are a million ways to improve medical care and lower cost but being run and subsidized by the government is not one of them.
I understand what you are saying about our government now, but yet other countries have it working...you think that we will never have a system that could be reformed?
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One other note of concern about the government is Medicare. For years it has been know that they baby boomer generation has a larger population than the current one. No politician republican or democrat a like has ever wanted to make a cost adjustments because it would require raising taxes and possibly costing the senior citizen vote. For everyone of us working, their are 3 retired people on Medicare. It is like going to the bank and depositing $1.00 and with drawing $3.00. If you have a large sum of money in the bank, it will work for a while, but at some point, you will be out of money.
Before the government goes off creating new healthcare systems, shouldn't they make long over due repairs to what they have?
