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In my experience, there is more to it than just sealing them up.
Details, details.
One cannot put all seeds in the same group.


In my opinion its where something is stored more than how.
I save seeds every year for lots of things, from the garden, and from my small dysfunctional plant nursery as well.
All my seeds are kept in paper, some are stored in envelopes in boxes of sawdust, so they can't absorb moisture, but still breathe.
Some are stored in the house, at room temp.
Some are put under the house where it is cooler.
 
In my experience, there is more to it than just sealing them up.
Details, details.
One cannot put all seeds in the same group.


In my opinion its where something is stored more than how.
I save seeds every year for lots of things, from the garden, and from my small dysfunctional plant nursery as well.
All my seeds are kept in paper, some are stored in envelopes in boxes of sawdust, so they can't absorb moisture, but still breathe.
Some are stored in the house, at room temp.
Some are put under the house where it is cooler.
I have absolutely no land to grow anything. It would all have to be potted plants.
hazards of planed communities.
 
http://wisefoodstorage.com/

You can get a free sample. We have tried it and fed all 4 of us with 1 package, tasted good too. We are buying $500 worth every other month. 25 yr shelf life too
 
There are many fancy freeze-dried food companies offering light-weight
storable meals. These are cost effective and great for new preppers. But if you don't have $1000 laying around to buy a large supply, it may be better to pick up a few key items each week at the supermarket to build up your food bank gradually. And by buying base foods at the store, you'll ultimately save money.

It's best to keep your survival food list simple, and concentrate on storing foods with the highest amount of calories and the longest shelf life. This list is geared toward foods that will help you survive a crisis that lasts for extended periods of time.

Here are the ten best and cheapest survival rations available at any store:
Rice:
Every time you go to the store you should buy one 10-lb bag of rice. You can find them for around $5 at most supermarkets. Rice will stay in good condition for 10 years or more if stored properly. It offers high carbohydrates which is especially important if you are exerting a lot of physical energy during a crisis.

Beans: Beans are known to be one of the best all-round survival foods. They're high in protein, and if sealed in food-grade buckets with a small amount of dried ice, they'll stay for up to ten years. Make sure to store them in a cool, dry, dark location. Buy a 4-5 lb bags of dried beans every time you go to the store. All dry beans are good to store; black beans, red beans, pinto beans, lentils.

Cornmeal: All-purpose flours are good to store, but cornmeal may be the best overall. Cornmeal is packed with dense carbohydrates and contains oils that helps extend its shelf life. Additionally, if the power grid is down during a mega disaster, it is much easier to make good corn breads and tortillas with cornmeal in a simple skillet or solar oven, where refined flour will need yeast and oil to make decent bread or biscuits. Get a 5-lb bag of cornmeal ($10-$15) at each grocery visit. Seal and store the same way as beans (buckets, salt and dry ice), and it will safely keep 8 months to 2 years.

Lard: If you're a health-conscious reader, hydrogenated lard does not sound very appetizing, but in a survival situation you can't afford to be picky. Animal lard or vegetable shortening both offer much-needed calories during times of crisis, cooking oil for multiple uses, and it will keep longer than cooking oils because of the hydrogenation. Buy a 6-lb can ($12) and store in a cool, dry, and dark place and it will stay good for 2-3 years or longer. (Or you can alway render your own)

Salt: Salt is one of the most useful survival food items. It's used for storing food, curing beef, and flavoring most meals. Salt will stay forever, so always buy extra when you're shopping.

Canned Fruit & Vegetables: These are another obvious survival food, but not as practical as many would think. They're heavy and somewhat costly for the calories they deliver. Additionally, acidic fruits and any cans with tomatoes will not keep as long as most people think. But most canned food is good for 5+ years. Buy green vegetables and fruits like peaches and pears for long-term storage, but more importantly, buy what you already eat in case you need to rotate them into your diet before they go bad.

Canned Meat: Canned meats like ham, tuna, and chicken are excellent to store. They typically will keep for 6-10 years and they're an excellent source of protein. However, if the grid is down for a long time (apocalyptic), hunting and fishing will likely provide most meats. Therefore, it may be sufficient to buy extra canned meats every other time you go shopping.

Sugar: Brown and white sugar will add much-needed flavor and calories to a survival diet and they'll keep for ten years or more if stored properly. Honey is also excellent as it will store forever. Make sure to buy extra every other time you go grocery shopping. You won't need too much, but they'll be well worth having if a crisis strikes.
Pasta: Pasta is a good light-weight storable food that is also a great source of carbohydrates. Pasta will not keep as long as rice, but it can stay for around 5 years in good conditions. Pasta is also very inexpensive and extra should be bought at each trip to the store. It will take up more space in your food bank than rice, beans and cornmeal, so plan your space the best you can.

Peanut Butter: Peanut butter is a terrific source of protein, fat, and calories. Plus, it's just a great treat to have on hand. Peanut butter can last up to five years in root cellar conditions. Stock up whenever there are good deals at your grocery store. You'll be happy you did if the SHTF.

If you consistently buy these items 3-4 times per month, you'll quickly acquire a year's supply of survival rations for your whole family.

How to store it?

A really basic way to store the rice, beans, cornmeal, sugar and pastas is to buy several 5-gallon seal-able paint buckets or food-grade buckets from your local hardware store. Put a cup or so of salt into a sandwich baggie (opened) at the bottom of the buckets. Then fill it with food stuffs and add a couple of ounces of dried ice (found at large grocery stores) which will remove the oxygen from the bucket after it's sealed. Finally, label each bucket with its contents and the date, and place it in your cellar.
 
I am thinking it might be a bio epidemic. At first I thought it might be water polution, but I have reconsidered that thought. Even with dried food a person needs water for 25 years too. If what ever happens lasts for 25 years the water supply will certainly be affected to some degree.
What part of California do you live in?


The great thing about a product lasting 25 years is that you can buy it now before something drastic happens, and you have it. Your clock now starts ticking, you will be prepared for the next 24 years in the event you need to use your supplies. Its not a matter of using it during a 25 year period. I don't think anyone can store 25 years worth of the stuff. Plus the price tag on 25 years of it would be around $150,000. In short, its just nice to have in the storage location knowing you have food that is not going to be bad or expired. Personally I like the Wise Company brand.
 
Wise and Mountain House (freeze dried) foods tend to get the best taste reviews. I've tried some of the Mountain House meals and they are pretty decent, even downright good. But, they are all expensive. Great for a get home bag, but you'd have to be rich to stock up on this exclusively.

Who would need to save food for 25 years?

Well, if nothing happens for another 10 years, then the stored item has 15 more years in it. ;)
 
The good old MRE they do taste better now as compared to when I was in the Army. Costco is also selling a 275 serving dehydrated pail for 85.00. I think that is a good deal and will be buying a couple in the next week or so.
Wal Mart sell the V2222 food saver with a wide mouth seal system on canning jars. You put your dry good in press the button it suck all the air out. I was putting away rice crispy today in half gallon jars. I done Rice ,Flour, place these type in oven for one hour at 200 degrees to kill any larva that may be in them. Pinto beans, potato flakes, oats, sugar, kool aid, cornmeal, pasta, it all work even powder milk.
 
Wal Mart sell the V2222 food saver with a wide mouth seal system on canning jars. You put your dry good in press the button it suck all the air out. I was putting away rice crispy today in half gallon jars. I done Rice ,Flour, place these type in oven for one hour at 200 degrees to kill any larva that may be in them. Pinto beans, potato flakes, oats, sugar, kool aid, cornmeal, pasta, it all work even powder milk.
Thanks for this info! It is greatly appreciated.
 
I did hear of packaged food that is dehydrated and it is supposed to last about 20 years. Is anyone familiar with this stuff? How does it taste?

I am going to to my local REI and see how much it costs.
Dehydrated is the best tasting and longest lasting. Walmart sells some in the camping section now for about 6bucks a meal. The longevity is great, but there are so many variables that the real use by is less. If you store something in a cool, dry and dark cave, it will last longer, the trunk of your car, well, not so longer. I would love to have three months of the stuff, but the cost is a little prohibitive. So far I've opted for mason jars and oxy absorbers. I'm covered with rice and beans. Definitely not as tasty, but will keep you going in a pinch.
 
Dehydrated is the best tasting and longest lasting. Walmart sells some in the camping section now for about 6bucks a meal. The longevity is great, but there are so many variables that the real use by is less. If you store something in a cool, dry and dark cave, it will last longer, the trunk of your car, well, not so longer. I would love to have three months of the stuff, but the cost is a little prohibitive. So far I've opted for mason jars and oxy absorbers. I'm covered with rice and beans. Definitely not as tasty, but will keep you going in a pinch.
I'm a big fan of dollar tree Handover soups are good. they got lots of can good i'm well stock now with 2017 dates. Can corn beef, spam, and other are in my pantry.
 
I have all hand tools I use as I believe they'll turn off all electric. Crock for pickle making, pressure cooker heavy stainless steel, I'm looking for a hand ringers . Gear guide I got a solar generator good for 100 watts . Small lights or T.V can be run. The have solar chargers for 12 volt battery you can buy inverter to 110 for 30 dollars. A good interstate will last a few years. Cast Iron for open fire cooking . You can get 5 piece set of lodge for around 70 dollars plus shipping already seasoned. I'll check out that wedsite as my grand mother used to do all that.
 
Honestly I think that we all need to learn how they preserved foods in the Colonial days which included smoking, dehydrating, jelly making and salting. I have already started learning some of these. This is a great link
http://www.foodtimeline.org/foodcolonial.html
Lots of great information.
Looking at the site cornmeal mush I still eat made in to a loaf cut fried in oil. My grand mother made lye soap. Breads we had chickens, always big gardens. You can keep milk fresh by placing a silver dollar in it. Bacteria cannot gown around silver. Colloidal silver can be used to fight infections. Activated charcoal for food poisoning. I buy Silver it great if we get back to bartering.
 
Honestly I think that we all need to learn how they preserved foods in the Colonial days which included smoking, dehydrating, jelly making and salting. I have already started learning some of these. This is a great link
http://www.foodtimeline.org/foodcolonial.html
Lots of great information.
I'll check the site later on, but couldn't agree more on learning to make your own. Buying food supplies is fine, but they run out, or could be lost due to theft, fire or flood. Being able to replenish your food long term is key to survival. I haven't looked at salting yet, oh well, who cares about a little high blood pressure! Lol.
 
Yep, those who really thrive post SHTF are going to be those that know how to keep animals, can their own food, and salt/preserve meats as well as grow their own produce. All skills we are starting to learn here, just takes time.
 
The internet is amazing as a resource guide to learn all these things. Our ancestress had to learn from their elders one on one. We are amazingly lucky to have the worlds knowledge at our fingertips. It's a shame that the number 1 use of the internet is still porn!
 
I have a friend who tells me what his grandmother did, at least as far as he can remember, but the boys were always shooed out of the kitchen so he can only tell me to a point. I could only wish I could find someone to learn first hand everything I wanted to do, but unfortunately I still rely on the internet to do my 'how to' researches. I know how to can, which was more like pioneer days. Colonials 'potted' meats. We recently bought an old 8ft x 12ft insulated building that we are planning to make into a smokehouse so that we can do our own and it could also be used in drying meats but with everything else going on, it has been put on the backburner. Yes I agree the internet is an awesome tool because now I don't have to go into downtown to the library and since I don't live there, would have to pay for a card.
 
Yep, those who really thrive post SHTF are going to be those that know how to keep animals, can their own food, and salt/preserve meats as well as grow their own produce. All skills we are starting to learn here, just takes time.
You'll need to know a lot of the old time tricks. The Amish are master at them.
 
You'll need to know a lot of the old time tricks. The Amish are master at them.

Just ask!
I "stole" my husband from an old order Amish Ordnung!! We continue to farm with horses, and preserve most everything just as the Amish do. I grew up in the Appalachian Mountains so just add a bit of hillbilly to the process and we have it all covered!! Growing, farming, harvesting, smoking, dehydrating, canning, and preserving comes second nature here!

Blessings,
Shenandoah
 
Just ask!
I "stole" my husband from an old order Amish Ordnung!! We continue to farm with horses, and preserve most everything just as the Amish do. I grew up in the Appalachian Mountains so just add a bit of hillbilly to the process and we have it all covered!! Growing, farming, harvesting, smoking, dehydrating, canning, and preserving comes second nature here!

Blessings,
Shenandoah
I have all hand tools I use as I believe they'll turn off all electric. Crock for pickle making, pressure cooker heavy stainless steel, I'm looking for a hand ringers . Gear guide I got a solar generator good for 100 watts . Small lights or T.V can be run. The have solar chargers for 12 volt battery you can buy inverter to 110 for 30 dollars. A good interstate will last a few years. Cast Iron for open fire cooking . You can get 5 piece set of lodge for around 70 dollars plus shipping already seasoned. I'll check out that wedsite as my grand mother used to do all that.
I too believe we will see a I day when there is no electricity, or at least it won't be on 24/7 like we are used to. I recently replaced all my lawn and garden tools and have a decent supply of misc tools. I have to admit though, I'm pretty spoiled by the dewalt cordless tools, will certainly miss them if I can't charge the batteries. All I know is we have it really easy right now. People don't realize how much effort goes into daily chores without electricity, like preparing meals, laundry, bathing, (I can't stand cold water!). I'm getting as prepared as I can for the day it happens, but I sure am greatfull for the ease of life we all enjoy now.
 
I have a friend who tells me what his grandmother did, at least as far as he can remember, but the boys were always shooed out of the kitchen so he can only tell me to a point. I could only wish I could find someone to learn first hand everything I wanted to do, but unfortunately I still rely on the internet to do my 'how to' researches. I know how to can, which was more like pioneer days. Colonials 'potted' meats. We recently bought an old 8ft x 12ft insulated building that we are planning to make into a smokehouse so that we can do our own and it could also be used in drying meats but with everything else going on, it has been put on the backburner. Yes I agree the internet is an awesome tool because now I don't have to go into downtown to the library and since I don't live there, would have to pay for a card.
I read up on things like gardening and raising rabbits. Even though I thought I was prepared for each, there is some 'art' involved with these things. There is no replacement for learning from someone who's done it for years. Even with as much knowledge as you can gather, you'll learn some things the hard way. Hopefully I'll be able to help some others down the road.
 
Looking at the site cornmeal mush I still eat made in to a loaf cut fried in oil. My grand mother made lye soap. Breads we had chickens, always big gardens. You can keep milk fresh by placing a silver dollar in it. Bacteria cannot gown around silver. Colloidal silver can be used to fight infections. Activated charcoal for food poisoning. I buy Silver it great if we get back to bartering.
Did you learn how to make lye soap? I've thought about it, and have heard it's kind of dangerous though.
 
Just ask!
I "stole" my husband from an old order Amish Ordnung!! We continue to farm with horses, and preserve most everything just as the Amish do. I grew up in the Appalachian Mountains so just add a bit of hillbilly to the process and we have it all covered!! Growing, farming, harvesting, smoking, dehydrating, canning, and preserving comes second nature here!

Blessings,
Shenandoah
i was born in WVa a little place called Davis Creek . I recall smoke house , pigs, chicken, huge gardens after digging out the rocks. making lye soap to wash clothes. Baking bread and of course outhouse.
 
I read up on things like gardening and raising rabbits. Even though I thought I was prepared for each, there is some 'art' involved with these things. There is no replacement for learning from someone who's done it for years. Even with as much knowledge as you can gather, you'll learn some things the hard way. Hopefully I'll be able to help some others down the road.
Oh trust me. . . I have had my disasters and have learned from them! I have a certain mind set to learn how to as much as possible and for the most part I learn by my trials and errors. . . and those are lessons that stick with you! I started back when I was a teen, but have to say there is still so much more I want to learn. I am very fortunate to have a very close friend that comes and helps us out with the critters when I have no idea and on some he doesn't either so we call a vet at that time.
 
Did you learn how to make lye soap? I've thought about it, and have heard it's kind of dangerous though.
When making lye soap you just need to use caution since the lye is dangerous and will eat thru your skin and other materials You also need to make certain that the lye is poured into the water, not vice-versa! Anything that you have poured lye into needs to not ever be used for food prep . . ever. . . ever. . .again! If you do it step by step, you will not have any problems.

What I want to know is, if you make your own lye using rainwater and ash, do you still use the same amount in recipes? or does it differ? I haven't made my own lye yet. . . just used commercial lye from the store, like Red Devil
 
When you make your own lye the steps i've seen are the same but the soap may stay thick liqiud instead of solid . One old timer told me all their soad was liquid . Another said you can cook it longer and it will become solid . Use hard wood ash preferably Hickory in a wood trough lined with corn shucks or straw and pour water over it and let it finish draining and there's your lye . They also said Bacon fat or Sheep tallow made the best soap .
 

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