Puerto Rico officials say all of island now has power again

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I's one thing to lose power but to know that competent, honest people are the best and brightest engineers and technicians to bring the power back online. It's quite another thing to lose power and have corrupt and incompetent b@stards prolong the problem.
 
I can only imagine how difficult it was living like that for so long. It is too bad that the government of PR has been so dishonest and pocketed $$$ in the past that was meant for shoring up the power system.

A former student of mine is married to a man who supervises power projects for Excel. They have been in PR for the last few months, getting power back up and running. He has gone to help with getting power back up after other hurricanes and major problems. I know he didn't do this single handed, but when I heard he was going there, I was especially interested in seeing how this would go.

The people who do not have power now are people who need to do their own work on their properties.
 
Ok I'm missing something, from the article I read there was no mention whatsoever of corruption. I dont follow what happened in Puerto Rico so maybe from other articles there was. Sorry
 
Flight said:
Ok I'm missing something, from the article I read there was no mention whatsoever of corruption. I dont follow what happened in Puerto Rico so maybe from other articles there was. Sorry
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The supplies being sent to the island were being doled out to friends and people who could pay the most. The same with power. People and businesses were having to pay officials to have their power re connected. Puerto Rico has always had a very corrupt government. There have been several news stories posted about it.
 
The new hurricane brought this thread up for me.

I don't think all of Puerto Rico is online with power yet. I don't think it really ever was since Hurricane Maria.

The husband of a former student of mine has been working in Puerto Rico to help get power up to all of the island, still recovering from Hurricane Maria. His wife (former student) and children are back after having spent their second summer there. This is what we needed to do to help build up the infrastructure. If we had sent them money, the money would have gone into someone's pocket and the island would still be without power.

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe he and his Excel crew have everyone online, but are building up the infrastructure so that it will be more stable for future hurricanes.

I was talking to someone about Puerto Rico. Many people in Puerto Rico still have blue tarps for roofs from Hurricane Maria. The person talking to me has been to Puerto Rico about once a year for about 10 years. He wants to own property there. When we were talking about blue tarps for roofs, he told me that it has to do with land and property ownership. If you own property and die, your property goes through probate, or not. If you die and no one takes your property through probate, the land will stay in your name. (I have seen it in other places) This is what has gone on in Puerto Rico. When you want to get a new roof, you need to get a permit. If you live in a home that is in your great grandfather's name, and he is long deceased, you cannot apply for a permit in your name. Only the homeowner can apply for the permit. Many homes in Puerto Rico are in this situation. Thus, the blue tarp for a roof.

I would have thought in a place like Puerto Rico, people would and could do things for themselves, without government permits. But the people in power are working every angle to get money from all people.
 
Weedygarden said:
I would have thought in a place like Puerto Rico, people would and could do things for themselves, without government permits. But the people in power are working every angle to get money from all people.
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The only difference between Puerto Rico and Detroit, is Puerto Rico's local government is more corrupt. Which takes a lot of effort and a lot of sheeple willing to allow it.
 
Sentry18 said:
The only difference between Puerto Rico and Detroit, is Puerto Rico's local government is more corrupt. Which takes a lot of effort and a lot of sheeple willing to allow it.
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I was in Puerto Rico more than a decade ago. The "Department of Education" is closed, lack of funds. Or rather, funds diverted into someone's pockets. There are many schools closed in Puerto Rico for the same reason, not enough money. Yet, there is money, but just not being spent where it needs to be. It is going to those in control in the government. I remember seeing the mayor of Puerto Rico stand in front of a news camera saying they needed water, while boat loads of water were sitting in the port, not being allowed to be distributed. You can't continue to milk more people for money if you act like you are no longer in need. Charades!
 
Weedygarden said:
If we had sent them money, the money would have gone into someone's pocket and the island would still be without power.
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We did give them money...............several billion so far and more is allocated.
 
Weedygarden said:
I was in Puerto Rico more than a decade ago. The "Department of Education" is closed, lack of funds. Or rather, funds diverted into someone's pockets. There are many schools closed in Puerto Rico for the same reason, not enough money. Yet, there is money, but just not being spent where it needs to be. It is going to those in control in the government. I remember seeing the mayor of Puerto Rico stand in front of a news camera saying they needed water, while boat loads of water were sitting in the port, not being allowed to be distributed. You can't continue to milk more people for money if you act like you are no longer in need. Charades!
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I was there about 4 years ago doing some consulting work for their "state" police force La Uniformada. It was interesting to say the least. The only other two LE groups I have ever met with that were more questionable than La Uniformada were a small tribal police department and Chicago PD. Of course all of them had good people trying their best in a situation where they could only make a positive impact on a very small scale. Meanwhile politicians demanded more funds to combat crime, taxes were raised, grants were provided, and somehow those funds never made it anywhere they could make a difference.
 
Curmudgeon said:
We did give them money...............several billion so far and more is allocated.
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We actually gave them around $80+ billion! We bailed them out of their massive bond debt that they had defaulted on. No one is talking about that little fact.
Does that mean we will soon also be bailing out Illinois too?
 
hiwall said:
We actually gave them around $80+ billion! We bailed them out of their massive bond debt that they had defaulted on. No one is talking about that little fact.
Does that mean we will soon also be bailing out Illinois too?
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Yes, forgot that piece about bailing them out of the bond debt, too. Another think was that there was a problem with many people not paying for utilities, and utilities never got shut off.
New governor. He's going to want a piece of the pie, isn't he?
 
PR presents a problem. Statehood? No! Cutting them free would open, an already socialist government, to the bribes of other countries, like China, that don't like us. That would be a bad place for a military base or missiles aimed at us.
 
Caribou said:
PR presents a problem. Statehood? No! Cutting them free would open, an already socialist government, to the bribes of other countries, like China, that don't like us. That would be a bad place for a military base or missiles aimed at us.
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Good thinking Car.
I didn't think of that.
 
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