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I'm not promoting cannabis or smoking, but there's a substance in cannabis oil when eaten that can do a similar job to apricot seeds , research it ,, just trying to help
 
Right here we go, basicaly the research is all there and there's a clinic in mexico somewhere with a 100% survival rate, ....

And yet those clinics can never be found. Most of the cancer-cure clinics in Mexico are eventually shut down, like the Clark clinic who was treating cancer patients with an almost 100% death rate. Not one cancer survivor could be found. You are aware that cancer is not just one disease aren't you? There is no one-treatment for all cancers. BTW, Ms Clark claimed to cure all cancers with her magic "Zapper." She herself died of cancer. What does that tell you? Don't take testimonials seriously. Those people don't exist. I had a friend in NY who wrote them for a good income. She was paid because she write such persuasive testimonials and all sounded like a different person wrote them. :rolleyes:

BUT and this is a major but, how would the pharmacutical companies make they're money if they let everyone know that they're medicines aren't needed,???

You're quoting the alt med websites now, 99.9% of which are selling something. I know many people who were cured of cancer because of surgery, chemo and or Radiation treatments. Pharm Cos make their money on the chronically ill of which there are no magical herbal or supplement-induced cures. No radiation or chemo or surgery can cure or put them in remission.

They go to huge lengths to protect the multi million pound/dollar industry that is cancer, trust me a lot of people make a living from cancer and they don't want ppl to know , there is other cures like cannabis oil, BUT if I was to start claiming that weed cures cancer ppl will just laugh .... You need to eat 5 a day, and work your way up to ten a day, ten a day will destroy cancer cells if u already have cancer and will stop you gettin it if u havnt already, I am a man of logic and wouldn't dream of making any claims that I am not 100% sure are true

And you have proof of this including people's medical records from known Universities?
 
Another cancer tip is to wear an ice cap while having chemo treatments, the cold makes the capillaries in the scalp contract thus slowin the flow of blood (and toxins) to the scalp therefore avoiding the hair loss :)

Icecap or not, not everyone loses their hair. I was on chemo for 6 months and although my hair thinned a bit, I was far from bald. No one even noticed but myself.
 
IMHO, they will never have a cure.
AIDS/Cancer research is a billion dollar+ a year industry, then you have the money from pharmacuticals too.
i really dont believe companys are going to lose out on all that money to save lives.

So you're accusing several million researchers from all over the earth of being in on a conspiracy? Every one is in on it? A lying bum who wants people to die or don't care if they do? How then do you explain those who were cured with surgery, chemo and or radiation? The rate of survival is increasing all the time.
 
the blood pressure issue could sort of be controlled after shtf with salt :/ i wouldnt recomend it but its the only thing i can think of atm that raises blood pressure lol some doctor id be haha but WOW they said they use apricot seeds thats great i hope they stay well for many years to come, and i still cant remember which wise soul told me about ph but im SURE that thats definately an amazing way to stay cancer free

Your body controls the PH of your blood and other body fluids. It's kept in a small range. If it goes out of kilter you don't get cancer - you die!
 
When I would go in for treatment I had to take a mouth guard so I wouldn't damage my teeth from gritting them against the pain, and they had to strap me down to keep me from coming off the bed.

Why was it so painful? I had 6 months of chemo and would fall asleep in the chair in Oncology. Were they injecting something right into the cancer? I've never heard of that.

My doctor can't explain it and doesn't know what to make of it. Chemo isn't why because any of the affects it would have had would have worn off long ago and my numbers would have gone back up.

Please remember that there are always unexplainable spontaneous remissions.
 
So you're accusing several million researchers from all over the earth of being in on a conspiracy? Every one is in on it? A lying bum who wants people to die or don't care if they do? How then do you explain those who were cured with surgery, chemo and or radiation? The rate of survival is increasing all the time.
Yes i sure am.
What goverments do for monetairy support would blow the mind of the average person.
Its not that they dont care who/how many die yet its also a ploy of population control.
Im sure they do have methods that do help/cure certain individuals, some kinda hope has to be kept akive that one day there may be a cure.......lol thats what bring the money in.
However, like churches, im sure there are a few out there that are really trying to do good for the world.
 
I would sure say that thousands of researchers do their part and the government covers up many findings. Why is it that doctors from other countries are arrested when they start to experiment and find something that works!! Dr. Simoncini in Italy found long ago that Sodium Bicarbonate would cure cancer. He was laughed out of practice but his book "Cancer is a Fungus" has ample information. Funny since just last year the mayo clinic and John Hopkins are now doing studies in this.
here is a link
http://www.naturalnews.com/035876_baking_soda_cancer_fungus.html

I am a firm believer that God and nature has supplied us with everything that we could ever need in life and that allopathic medicine is nothing but a money making scheme thought up by big Pharma. To those in the medical field on this page I have nothing against you I'm sure you help allot of people in the ways that you know, but I wish that all doctors would have to study more than just allopathic medicine.
 
And yet those clinics can never be found. Most of the cancer-cure clinics in Mexico are eventually shut down, like the Clark clinic who was treating cancer patients with an almost 100% death rate. Not one cancer survivor could be found. You are aware that cancer is not just one disease aren't you? There is no one-treatment for all cancers. BTW, Ms Clark claimed to cure all cancers with her magic "Zapper." She herself died of cancer. What does that tell you? Don't take testimonials seriously. Those people don't exist. I had a friend in NY who wrote them for a good income. She was paid because she write such persuasive testimonials and all sounded like a different person wrote them. :rolleyes:



You're quoting the alt med websites now, 99.9% of which are selling something. I know many people who were cured of cancer because of surgery, chemo and or Radiation treatments. Pharm Cos make their money on the chronically ill of which there are no magical herbal or supplement-induced cures. No radiation or chemo or surgery can cure or put them in remission.



And you have proof of this including people's medical records from known Universities?
My sister-in-law took my wife and I to a Healer in Mexico. There was a huge line in front of his house... so my sister-in-law took us in the back way and we were seen immediately. This guy was really good... I was taken to him because of my tinnitus (at that point I had it for about a year or two... not quite used to it at that point... that was about 15 years ago). Well this guy took me and the family into a room had me take off my shirt and he had a short sleeve shirt on... he washed his hands with some special holy water... then he showed us his hands ... back and front ... well he started touching my back and head and then he said something in Spanish and with everyone watching he pulled a BB out of my head. Now I know the BB wasn't there because a month earlier I had a MRI done on my head and a BB would have shown up BIG time and I would have know too (MRIs use a powerful magnet that actually align the hydrogen molecules in the area scanned). Then he pulled a piece of something evil out of my head (it was dehydrated chicken) and put it into a tiny jar with the holy water and told us that we were to come back in about 3 hours.... and if it grows then it was truly bad stuff that he removed. We I didn't want to come back but we had to... and sure enough... the dehydrated chicken grew. Then he had us go into a room and leave some special gifts (money) for his work. My wife left $20 ... she said if she didn't her sister would have left a couple of hundred!!

I felt really sad for the people out front... wasting their time and money and health and faith on this crap.

Later she took us to a woman that (get this) read our shadows!!! After that I told my wife... never again!!!
 
My sister-in-law took my wife and I to a Healer in Mexico. There was a huge line in front of his house... I felt really sad for the people out front... wasting their time and money and health and faith on this crap.

Later she took us to a woman that (get this) read our shadows!!! After that I told my wife... never again!!!

Brevity snipped.

It's all quackery. It's a shame the gullible and desperate fall for it. :(
 
I would sure say that thousands of researchers do their part and the government covers up many findings.

Can you site proof of that? My SD works for a Japanese company that does drug trials and there are so many safe guards today that there is nothing to cover up by the Gov. Why would the Gov, who doesn't make and sell drugs, do cover ups? This sounds like something my friend would write for an alt med website.

Why is it that doctors from other countries are arrested when they start to experiment and find something that works!!
Dr. Simoncini in Italy found long ago that Sodium Bicarbonate would cure cancer. He was laughed out of practice but his book "Cancer is a Fungus" has ample information.

That's odd since Ms Clark of "magic zapper" fame swore all cancers are caused by liver flukes and only liver flukes. We will note she couldn't even cure herself. She died of cancer.

Funny since just last year the mayo clinic and John
Hopkins are now doing studies in this.
here is a linkhttp://www.naturalnews.com/035876_baking_soda_cancer_fungus.html

I am a firm believer that God and nature has supplied us with everything that we could ever need in life and that *allopathic medicine is nothing but a money making scheme thought up by big Pharma.*

You must have read some of my friends writings online. This was one of her favorite lines. :) You're quoting her almost word for word. If a God really existed, we and the animals and plants wouldn't be suffering from all these diseases.:)

To those in the medical field on this page I have nothing against you I'm sure you help allot of people in the ways that you know, but I wish that all doctors would have to study more than just allopathic medicine.

I agree with you here. But those I met are familiar with non-drug treatments. They suggest vitamins, minerals, a better diet etc. for some conditions. BTW, do you and your family have excellent health and dental Ins?
 
Yes i sure am.
What goverments do for monetairy support would blow the mind of the average person.
Its not that they dont care who/how many die yet its also a ploy of population control.

Your claim is totally absurd. bsflagIf that were the case, almost no one would be cured of anything. Also, I find it insulting since I worked in the medical and veterinary fields for years. You're falling for the conspiracy BS on the anti-Gov, ant-drug, anti-Dr websites. :D

Im sure they do have methods that do help/cure certain individuals, some kinda hope has to be kept akive that one day there may be a cure.......lol thats what bring the money in.
However, like churches, im sure there are a few out there that are really trying to do good for the world.

Think again. Most are trying to help people. Most want to relieve suffering. If they were all into some kind of insane conspiracy and weren't preforming, their funding would be cut off. Research would come to stop, no drugs would be sold and millions would die.

Are you covered by a good dental and health Ins plan? It seems all those who read those anti-drug, anti-Dr sites have no Ins.
 
I am a firm believer that they really don't want to cure cancer. I know how dare I say that!
Well here is my reasoning.... THERE IS NO MONEY IN CURES ONLY IN TREATMENT!!!

Huh? As they cure one person, another will come in with cancer. So what you say makes no sense. And it's insulting to the medical community. If you get cancer, don't choose treatment. No one is going to force you. Some people choose to simply die. That's their choice. But don't badmouth those who fight so hard like my Oncologist does to save lives.

Do you honestly think the medical/pharmacutical world wants to slit there own financial throat.

How would they when there are always new cancer victims coming along? As for making money... how the hell do think the drug companies can develop and test new drugs without an income? I don't see the alt meds and outright Quacks giving anything away.
 
My father said that they try to keep thier ph at 8 or more, also said that they eat aprocot seeds, but they tend to lower his blood pressure.

Your body regulates it's PH. If it goes out of the safe range, you can die.
 
IMHO, they will never have a cure.

You need to do some real research. Do you have a medical background or are you only reading those anti-chem, Dr and Gov sites? Cancer is not one disease, but many. It's caused by many things. Not just one thing. Are you so unaware that you don't know bone-marrow transplants are saving leukemia victims every day? That radiation is saving lives every day? What alt med you know is doing that with apricot seeds or "magic zappers" that cure all cancers, yet the creator of said zapper herself (a proven quack) died of the disease. None of you who constantly attack the medical profession and researchers, who work hard and aren't paid millions a year, seem to have medical backgrounds or good health Ins plans.

AIDS/Cancer research is a billion dollar+ a year industry, then you have the money from pharmacuticals too.
i really dont believe companys are going to lose out on all that money to save lives.

Lose what money? There will always be people with AIDS and with cancer coming into the Oncology clinics.

Are you so unaware that you think the research they do costs them nothing? You need to do some research before posting lies and attacking some of the hardest working people you will ever meet in your life.
 
I am a firm believer that chemo is not the only answer! There have been a lot of studies that show that different fruits and vegetables can stop the growth of tumors, and even shrink them.

Yes, in the petri dish so to speak. Under lab conditions. But not when fed to and digested by humans, diluted and spread through the body. What works under lab conditions, with mice and rats and even monkeys, quite often doesn't work in humans. The drug companies lose millions on research when the drug that looked so good in the lab fails miserably under test conditions.

There was the broccoli and cabbage cancer diet fad among the alt meds not to long ago.... but guess what? It did nothing to shrink anyone's cancer. That, like the magic zappers and Laetrile and "cleanses" slowly faded into the sunset. The alt meds will come up with some other "sure cure" that doesn't work either and make millions on the gullible and desperate.
 
Ha!!!!
I have very good insurance tyvm!
If i had cancer, i would use treatments provided by medical advice before ever thinking of using alt methods....maybe as a last resort.
However, if you wish to ve blind to the trillions of dollers donated to medical science to "find the cure" then the only "self" being fooled is you.
You go ahead n believe our government does everything to "standered procedure" i will not!
Do i think those doctors get paid millions? Hell no i dont, but thats precicly my point. although they may make hundreds of thousands a year non the less.
Do you believe it takes millions of dollars to test cabbage on rats for a year???
The sheep are thick in this country aint they.........
 
IMHO, they will never have a cure.
AIDS/Cancer research is a billion dollar+ a year industry,...

So are alternative treatments. Read a few alt websites and see all the stuff they're selling. Conventional Drs, oncologists are curing cancer, every day. :) My cousin in NY was cured of leukemia with a bone marrow transplant from his brother. That was 25+ year ago. I was cured of cancer by surgery and chemo. One of my friends who recently died of old age was cured of ovarian cancer with the use of surgery and radiation, and that was years ago. I could go on and on but you get the point. Cancer isn't a death sentence anymore with the new drugs and treatments they have. How you can claim everyone in the medical field doesn't want to cure cancer really makes no sense. As one is cured another develops the disease so they will always have patients. If apricot pits and broccoli-cabbage diets and PH nonsence worked, along with things like Hulda Clarks worthless "magic zapper" and coffee enemas, the drug companies would never have done research on the drugs we have now that are actually curing cancer or putting it into remission for many years. And there are also spontaneous remissions when nothing was done.

then you have the money from pharmacuticals too.
i really dont believe companys are going to lose out on all that money to save lives.

You are sadly mistaken.
 
Ha!!!!
I have very good insurance tyvm!
If i had cancer, i would use treatments provided by medical advice before ever thinking of using alt methods....maybe as a last resort.
However, if you wish to ve blind to the trillions of dollers donated to medical science to "find the cure" then the only "self" being fooled is you.

No my friend, a cure would not send them all to the unemployment line and the bankruptcy courts. Why? Because for each person cured, and millions have been cured of cancer but you haven't address them, another person develops it. So they will always have new patients who will need surgery, radiation and/or chemo. And they all race for a cure because the drug company who finally finds the cure will be rich beyond anyone's wildest dreams. They will have the patient on the drug. But is a cure possible when you think of the facts of cancer? You also don't seem to realize that there are many types of cancer and they don't all respond to the same treatment. So one "cure" is not likely.

You go ahead n believe our government does everything to "standered procedure" i will not!

What does the Gov have to do with it? Research is done in the labs.

Do i think those doctors get paid millions? Hell no i dont, but thats precicly my point. although they may make hundreds of thousands a year non the less.

What Drs? Researches? They make a lot less than a GP or specialists. They all want to succeed and find a cure, a cure for at least one of the many types of cancer out there. They gain prestige and respect from their peers.

Do you believe it takes millions of dollars to test cabbage on rats for a year???
The sheep are thick in this country aint they.........

What are you talking about? How is that related to finding cures for all the cancers and other potentially fatal diseases?
 
My father said that they try to keep thier ph at 8 or more, also said that they eat aprocot seeds, but they tend to lower his blood pressure.
I will have to talk to my mother for more info, as the more I question dad the more he changes the subject.

Please do some research on PH and how the body regulates it. Your body stays in a close range... if you go below or above it for any amount of time, you DIE! Blood must always be slightly alkaline, with a pH of 7.35 to 7.45. Regardless of what you eat or drink, it will remain in that range. PH is a popular cancer treatment/cure among the alt meds right now, but like all the other fads, it too will fade away and something else will touted as a cure. :)

The truth is, if the SHTF and the oncology clinics close, millions who would have been cured or put into remission will die. That goes for anyone who depends on some kind of med to stay alive.
 
emp, don't get me started on cancer and chemo. I know the clinic in Mexico, but I don't want to say the name as I don't want to start anything.

All you need do is post their website and the proof or irrefutable evidence that they cured everyone. Remember that Ms Clark claimed her Mexican cancer clinic cured everyone also. Yet she was ran out of Mexico (she was also run out of the USA) when it was shown not one of her victims were cured. Those located through family, had already died. Ms Clark herself died of cancer!!!!!!!!

There was a article on Yahoo yesterday about a little girl in Phoenix who is battling leukemia and has lost her arm due to complications from the treatment. The parents took her out and have taken her for treatment in Mexico. Now there is child neglect charges that may come against them. It's a parents right to choose what and where their child gets treatment.

Fruit pits and broccoli diets and silver in any form aren't cures........
 
Sorry if I went off...allot of this just felt like a personal attack. :-(

Some of it is an insult, a putdown to the hard working people in the medical fields, the researchers, those willing to be in the drug tests etc. To claim they're all dishonest greedy pigs in on some money-mad conspiracy to keep people sick is just plain crazy and insulting. There are many diseases there are no cures for but those fanatics against modern medicine seem totally unaware of that fact.
 
Ok sorry hope my reply even though a bit confrontational answered ur questions or made you realise you and other healthcare workers aren't the focus of this discussion just big companies

But you need to realize it takes a big company with a BIG bank account to do the research needed and to get a drug to market.
 
I've never had to endure chemo so obviously I don't know what it feels like first hand like you do...and without pain meds on top of that. Yikes!

There is no pain with chemo. It's diluted and goes into a vein. You may or may not get a "port." In any case the only pain is the needle prick. And there is a salve for that so you wont even feel the needle going in. I never even heard of anyone suffering pain with chemo. It does have side effects but it's not pain. It's nausea and some get diarrhea but they have meds for that also.

For the record, I don't dismiss alternative means of healing by any means. I'm not one of those "drug pushing Nurses"...LOL The majority of our medicines have their origins in planst and herbs and such just as the Indians and other cultures used them. We just figured a way to put **** into a capsule...LOL I wish you luck. Truely. :)

And make each capsule or pill have the same amount of active ingredient unlike most alt med herbal caps on the 'net.
 
Yes i sure am.
What goverments do for monetairy support would blow the mind of the average person.

How would the US Gov gets millions of research workers, Drs, nurses, oncologists, drug testers and people cured of cancer from all over the world in on the conspiracy? What monetary support is the Gov getting from those with incurable diseases like cancer, lupus, Huntingtons, MS etc or from those treating them, curing them and keeping them alive?

Its not that they dont care who/how many die yet its also a ploy of population control.

OMG! That is an unreal accusation and an insult to those of us who work or worked in the medical fields. Population control ploy? In the USA?

Im sure they do have methods that do help/cure certain individuals, some kinda hope has to be kept akive that one day there may be a cure.......lol thats what bring the money in.
However, like churches, im sure there are a few out there that are really trying to do good for the world.

I truly believe your ideas come from some of those radical fanatical alt med sites written by those with an agenda and who are always selling the latest cures. And not one of them producing any proof of any of their claims.... nothing but worthless anecdotes and testimonials written by professional writers.
 
I would sure say that thousands of researchers do their part and the government covers up many findings.


Can you quote a site where you found that information? I want to know what exactly the Gov covers up, and what findings were covered up?

Why is it that doctors from other countries are arrested when they start to experiment and find something that works!!

Which Drs were arrested for finding a cure for one of the many many cancers out there? Which cancer were cured? By who?

Dr. Simoncini in
Italy found long ago that Sodium Bicarbonate would cure cancer. He was laughed out of practice but his book "Cancer is a Fungus" has ample information. Funny since just last year the mayo clinic and John Hopkins are now doing studies in this.


Studies on fungus or on Sodium Bicarbonate?

here is a link
http://www.naturalnews.com/035876_baking_soda_cancer_fungus.html

Sorry, that's not the link for the Mayo Clinic or Johns Hopkins.

One alt med claims all cancers are caused by liver flukes and another claims cancers are caused by fungus, another claims it's all the toxins in and on our foods and in the water........ they need to get together and agree what causes and cures cancers. :)
http://www.naturalnews.com/035876_baking_soda_cancer_fungus.html

I am a firm believer that God and nature has supplied us with everything that we could ever need in life and that allopathic medicine is nothing but a money making scheme thought up by big Pharma.

If that were so, everyone would have used the God given nature supplied products and never bought any meds from the drug stores. Why would they when a few herbs was curing all that ailed them? Can you explain that one? They would have told the Dr to forget the antibiotics or chemo, that they had some herbs or "treatment" to cure them. Tell me, what herb or alt treatment (nature supplied cure) cures MS, Lupus, hypothyroidism, Multiple Dsytrophy, polio, measles, scleroderma, rabies, antibiotic resistant TB?

To those in the medical field on this page I have nothing against you I'm sure you help allot of people in the ways that you know, but I wish that all doctors would have to study more than just allopathic medicine.

Most of them do have a good idea about alt meds.
 
thats fantastic mate ,,,, dont forget them apricot seeds mate i realy hope u never need them though
Those are the BITTER almond seeds - not the sweet almonds we eat. Take 5 or so a day - more can cause digestive trouble and no need. These seeds contain Laetril - remember? The great promise of the 70's to cure cancer and then it was shut up and ignored because you can't patent "natural" substances and make billions. There are many of these natural cures that have been bought out or discredited. therrrrrrrre are many bills in legislative houses in every state to use the FDA to shut out supplements so we can't help ourselves. Please check it out and fight the increasing dissappearance of vitamins, minerals, herbs and teas that compete with Big Pharma.
 

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