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People in Scotland are so polite. One of the most disgusting problems in the USA are people pooping everywhere. And they do it in the most remote areas. Of course we all have to do it but what is disgusting is the way they are doing it. I was brought up to dig a little hole, do your business, and bury it along with any toilet paper. But that is all gone. People just do it in the open and leave it there.

They have the opposite story, Snowflake, they say they can't stand the smell of a chemical toilet.
 
We just put a toilet seat on a fold out camp stool and carry it into the woods,dig a hole and get er done.
 
The first deer camp I belonged to had no electricity and no running water. There was a ladder back chair with a hole in the seat and a roll of TP on one side of the chair back. When you had to go you carried it out in the woods.
Manual water pump for water that had to be primed, gas space heater in the bunkhouse that we turned off when we went to bed (we cut cards to see who would have to get up and light it in the morning.)
Those were the days...LMAO...
 
Is there ever any discussions on using your own poop for compost because that's what I do. I hope I'm doing it correctly. I transfer each garbage can into an inverted 18" culvert on end, leave it for over a year, and then transfer it to an open flat tank and cover it again until usage required. It has lots of sawdust and ashes from the woodstove mixed into it. We do not take any prescriptions and all our food is grown by us organically, wild harvested protein, and wild foraging featuring all kinds of plants, berries and mushrooms. Our water is our own from 230' so I don't know what else to consider but that's our program thus far.
 
Is there ever any discussions on using your own poop for compost because that's what I do. I hope I'm doing it correctly. I transfer each garbage can into an inverted 18" culvert on end, leave it for over a year, and then transfer it to an open flat tank and cover it again until usage required. It has lots of sawdust and ashes from the woodstove mixed into it. We do not take any prescriptions and all our food is grown by us organically, wild harvested protein, and wild foraging featuring all kinds of plants, berries and mushrooms. Our water is our own from 230' so I don't know what else to consider but that's our program thus far.
I compost as well. We used to have a composting toilet, but crawling under the cabin to crank the handle and cleaning out the tray got a bit messy and, with more than occasional weekend use, the bad stuff isn't dying before it is time to clean it out. I now go in a bucket and compost in a pile, and that pile moves every year. In fact, that is very common in this area.

Since this is a prepping forum and many people here might find themselves in the awkward position of needing to do the same, I would like to try to set some minds at ease.

The most important part of composting is that you keep it covered with something like sawdust or leaves to keep the flies off it. Contrary to popular belief, open composting does not magically create cholera or other bacteria that causes epidemics. It takes someone with cholera pooping and that contaminated poop getting into the compost pile. Then, and only then, flies will spread that bacteria. There is e coli and other bacteria present that you do not want flies to spread, so keeping it covered is good practice regardless.

I used to rent a trailer on a friends farm. There was a holding tank, but being a farm, it was 100% legal to pump it out directly on the field uncovered as opposed to having a truck come and suck it out to do the same - so we did. We never had an issue, nobody ever got sick. One day I was taking a shortcut walking to a friends house and got an education on how septic pumping companies operate. They drive out into a field, open the valve, and drive. Tampons and unflushables were all over the field and nothing is even covered, and this perfectly legal for sewage pumping companies in certain areas if the field is a specific distance from population centers. Aside from protecting lakes and rivers from algae blooms, the septic system laws in my state make about as much sense as paying someone to take your garbage (that you cannot burn) just so that it can be burnt in their incinerator to produce electricity, which they then sell. Some bigger towns like Redwing MN burns all their trash, and the local garden stores sells bags of Milwaukee's poop as fertilizer (Milorganite). Mammals have been pooping on the ground for millions of years, it is an integral part of the planet's ecology. Depending on the composting method, human waste can be safe for gardening edibles after letting sit between 1 year and 7 years.

I don't pay per flush, and until I am too old to carry a bucket and run a garden hoe, I won't. All I have is blue clay, I need every ounce of dirt I can make!
 
Thanks for that reply. Some good ideas. I know what you mean about the disposal companies doing what they do, especially around "recyclables". I'll put some of your ideas in use now.
 
For most things, recycling is not cost effective. A lot of what you put in the blue bin ends up either in a landfill or an incinerator.
I'm not sure why most places don't recycle glass. It is actually very easy to recycle. I know because I once worked at a glass recycling plant unloading the glass off of boxcars. They ground it up, blew the ground up glass up through a furnace to round off the edges, then used it to make reflective highway paint.
 
I use to pass through an area with sod farms. They had beautiful grass fields right next to the interstate. The local city used to supply the fertilizer for the sod.
The back road with the gates to the farms would have signs- need sludge or no sludge today.
Think how that would twist a liberals head.
 
some bigger towns like Redwing MN burns all their trash, and the local garden stores sells bags of Milwaukee's poop as fertilizer (Milorganite).
Miloganite was one of the companies I represented. They sent me a hat and a video of their product. Composted, heat treated, I actually was impressed with the product and treatment. Not as much fertilizer value as other mixed products, but still valuable. I still have the hat.
 
I compost as well. We used to have a composting toilet, but crawling under the cabin to crank the handle and cleaning out the tray got a bit messy and, with more than occasional weekend use, the bad stuff isn't dying before it is time to clean it out. I now go in a bucket and compost in a pile, and that pile moves every year. In fact, that is very common in this area.

Since this is a prepping forum and many people here might find themselves in the awkward position of needing to do the same, I would like to try to set some minds at ease.

The most important part of composting is that you keep it covered with something like sawdust or leaves to keep the flies off it. Contrary to popular belief, open composting does not magically create cholera or other bacteria that causes epidemics. It takes someone with cholera pooping and that contaminated poop getting into the compost pile. Then, and only then, flies will spread that bacteria. There is e coli and other bacteria present that you do not want flies to spread, so keeping it covered is good practice regardless.

I used to rent a trailer on a friends farm. There was a holding tank, but being a farm, it was 100% legal to pump it out directly on the field uncovered as opposed to having a truck come and suck it out to do the same - so we did. We never had an issue, nobody ever got sick. One day I was taking a shortcut walking to a friends house and got an education on how septic pumping companies operate. They drive out into a field, open the valve, and drive. Tampons and unflushables were all over the field and nothing is even covered, and this perfectly legal for sewage pumping companies in certain areas if the field is a specific distance from population centers. Aside from protecting lakes and rivers from algae blooms, the septic system laws in my state make about as much sense as paying someone to take your garbage (that you cannot burn) just so that it can be burnt in their incinerator to produce electricity, which they then sell. Some bigger towns like Redwing MN burns all their trash, and the local garden stores sells bags of Milwaukee's poop as fertilizer (Milorganite). Mammals have been pooping on the ground for millions of years, it is an integral part of the planet's ecology. Depending on the composting method, human waste can be safe for gardening edibles after letting sit between 1 year and 7 years.

I don't pay per flush, and until I am too old to carry a bucket and run a garden hoe, I won't. All I have is blue clay, I need every ounce of dirt I can make!
When i was growing up a LOT of people still had OUTHOUSES!!!!
 
I'll start by saying sorry for lowering the tone, But i have never met anyone that can poo while wild camping. I know I don't and that worry's me...If the shtf I'm gona be so bagged up I wont be able to move. Is this a valid issue or am I just full of sh!#.:eek:

Should I post this...NO....yes....NO....NOOOOO....O what the hell.
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When wild camping I've shat in ditches all over England, Wales and France, after all animals and birds crap all over the place so why shouldn't we?..:)

PS- I once even shat in a ladyfriends dustbin in her back yard in the dead of night.
I'd tried doing it in her toilet upstairs but all that came out were a series of farts sounding like the mothership in Close Encounters because I was trying to be quiet, so I crept downstairs and climbed halfway up the garden fence and hung my arse over the mouth of her tall bin and let rip like a claymore blast, her cat was out there and it ran off looking terrified.
 
When wild camping I've shat in ditches all over England, Wales and France, after all animals and birds crap all over the place so why shouldn't we?..:)

PS- I once even shat in a ladyfriends dustbin in her back yard in the dead of night.
I'd tried doing it in her toilet upstairs but all that came out were a series of farts sounding like the mothership in Close Encounters because I was trying to be quiet, so I crept downstairs and climbed halfway up the garden fence and hung my arse over the mouth of her tall bin and let rip like a claymore blast, her cat was out there and it ran off looking terrified.
That sounds really . . . um . . . crass?

Do you have any class? Or a minimal working knowledge of the definition of "good taste"?
 
I've heard worse.
Wellllllll, If our RESIDENT IN CHARGE OF LIES CAN CRAP HIS PANTS IN THE VATICAN...................
Who are we to make any worries about where we will do our business after TSHTF?????
I have a well lit and even decorated out-house in the middle of a town. There are dozens of outhouses around the lake nearby and even down on the Danube River not far away. Hungarians have still a bit of CLASS in the woods.
 
Do you have any class? Or a minimal working knowledge of the definition of "good taste"?

If it's any consolation to you, my ladyfriend dumped me soon after the dustbin incident..:)
Dunno if she seen what i'd done in there, but it might have been because I'd already upset her before that.
What happened was that she'd invited me round for a meal with her and her son, but she'd undercooked the bacon and it was like chewing rubber, so when they weren't looking I fished it out of my mouth and slung it behind the settee for her cat but it wouldn't touch it!
I meant to pick it up later but completely forgot, and she must have found it next day..:)
 
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If it's any consolation to you, my ladyfriend dumped me soon after the dustbin incident..:)
Dunno if she seen what i'd done in there, but it might have been because I'd already upset her before that.
What happened was that she'd invited me round for a meal with her and her son, but she'd undercooked the bacon and it was like chewing rubber, so when they weren't looking I fished it out of my mouth and slung it behind the settee for her cat but it wouldn't touch it!
I meant to pick it up later but completely forgot, and she must have found it next day..:)
how does does any lady under cook the bacon. Your sure you weren’t the cook ? Or maybe a figment of your wild imagination 🤔 : ) cats really luv bacon.
 
Wait a min, 26 Brits died at the Alamo, huh you try to be nice (sniffle)..

ALAMO DEFENDERS- 115 total included 26 Brits- (12 English/ 10 Irish/ 4 Scots)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Alamo_defenders

Heck even Trump is half-British

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Even President Trump be half British you say. Well we may grant you some leniency. You English ones were certainly great empire builders and seems good breeders also to wherever you found yourselves situated amongst the worlds population. But I guess it’s all gloves off when it comes down to a dash of cricket especially with us here in kangaroo land : )
 
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Even President Trump be half British you say. Well we may grant you some leniency. You English ones were certainly great empire builders and seems good breeders also to wherever you found yourselves situated amongst the worlds population. But I guess it’s all gloves off when it comes down to a dash of cricket especially with us here in kangaroo land : )

Yes mate we Brits civilised half the world..:)

CHIEF- "Go home pommy bast*rds"
BRITS- "F*** you Jack, we're here to confiscate your boomerangs and didgeridoos"

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Wait a min, 26 Brits died at the Alamo, huh you try to be nice (sniffle)..

ALAMO DEFENDERS- 115 total included 26 Brits- (12 English/ 10 Irish/ 4 Scots)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Alamo_defenders

Heck even Trump is half-British

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LOL. I was being nice. Most of my friends are rednecks and I was saying that it might be crass but, I have heard and seen worse....still, I hang out with them. They are irreverent, gauche, and also very real. They say what they mean and you always know where you stand with them. It is a refreshing change from the world of propriety that I was raised in.
 
Wellllllll, If our RESIDENT IN CHARGE OF LIES CAN CRAP HIS PANTS IN THE VATICAN...................
Who are we to make any worries about where we will do our business after TSHTF?????
I have a well lit and even decorated out-house in the middle of a town. There are dozens of outhouses around the lake nearby and even down on the Danube River not far away. Hungarians have still a bit of CLASS in the woods.

I haven't gotten around to building an outhouse at BOL2 yet so, yes, the woods is the only option for the moment. Shovel and TP has its easy access place and the sandy soil there is easy to dig deep fast.
My hope is that there won't be an outhouse because I will get the big composting toilet system in the cabin before I really need it. Seasonal use for up to 8 adults or families of 10; there will be only 2 of us year round until TSHTF.


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I am also interested in this one, which is a biogas producer so you will have gas to cook with. It also composts food scraps and animal manure. It also provides liquid fertilizer.

I need to research it more though. I wonder if it would run a propane fridge/freezer if converted to run on methane? Don't know if that is possible. It works better in warm weather areas like mine or you need to add a heater to keep it around 68 degrees F. You can add a bidet attachment to reduce TP usage and use recycled grey water to reduce water consumption. Since we will have a rainwater catchment system there, and droughts do hit, that is an attractive option.

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https://www.homebiogas.com/product/homebiogas-7/


DIY version:



I have an irrational fear of pit toilets. Call it a paranoia.

As a kid, we drove everywhere and stopped at a lot of rest stops with pit toilets. Having a small derrière, I was absolutely petrified of falling in (this is before the scene in Schindler's list). It got to the point that if it was a pit toilet, I would just hold it until we stopped to get fuel. To this day, I would rather dig my own hole in the woods! :)
 
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I have had my outhouse up and usable for many years now . Only on an unusual occasion , is it used . I dug and built it because I prepare for a SHTF event , whatever that might be . Also to be considered is but wipe . The old catalogs used 80 years ago were not with that slick waxed looking finish that we see today , therefore were a more usable commodity . I planted mullein plants years ago for but wipe . A few days ago I done a survey of my mullein and estimated about 100 plants . For those unfamiliar with this plant , it has many large soft leaves per plant and will obtain the height of about 6 feet before it dies down for the winter .
 
I'll start by saying sorry for lowering the tone, But i have never met anyone that can poo while wild camping. I know I don't and that worry's me...If the shtf I'm gona be so bagged up I wont be able to move. Is this a valid issue or am I just full of sh!#.:eek:

Should I post this...NO....yes....NO....NOOOOO....O what the hell.

Hang loose mate, as preppers/survivalists it's only right we should discuss things like that and throw in a spot of humour on the way, because a healthy sense of humour will be a powerful tool after the apocalypse and anybody without one will be like a wagon without springs, jolted by every pebble on the road..:)
Below- wild pooing, what could possibly go wrong?-

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PS- Reminds me when I was just out of jail (3 month vigilante rap in 2002), I was homeless for a while and living rough in a tent in a wood but my sense of humour was as strong as ever, "Oh great" I thought, "I've ended up as Bigfoot"..:)
 
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