I'm guessing that asthma would fall into the "get the shot" category?
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What Is Going Around Making People Sick?
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Well not having any resistance to it at all since we don't take the shots, plus the fact thsi years shot only good for about 10% I'm not going for it. :thumbs up:
I don't get the flu shot either. I've only had the flu 3 times in my life so thats pretty good odds in my book.
I know at one day down the road I'll probably have to start getting it along with the pneumonia shot but until then I'll do without if I can.
I just had a head cold with a sore throat from hell. It took 3 days for the sore throat to go away. The head cold had my face, head, neck and shoulders hurting. Thank goodness for Mucinex Max lol It worked great both the nitetime and the daytime stuff. I'm just glad there was no sort of infection with either the throat or the head cold.
Lots of lemon tea with honey, ice water, ice pops and ice cream. Its what I lived on for 3 days lol
I know at one day down the road I'll probably have to start getting it along with the pneumonia shot but until then I'll do without if I can.
I just had a head cold with a sore throat from hell. It took 3 days for the sore throat to go away. The head cold had my face, head, neck and shoulders hurting. Thank goodness for Mucinex Max lol It worked great both the nitetime and the daytime stuff. I'm just glad there was no sort of infection with either the throat or the head cold.
Lots of lemon tea with honey, ice water, ice pops and ice cream. Its what I lived on for 3 days lol
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I have never had a flu shot. I was living in Kansas City in the 70s when the one known case of the Swine Flu hit. A friend of mine was a nurse and over the program for the health department. She was so unhappy with her friends (my roomates and I) who refused to get the shot.
One person got the Swine flu, someone in Lexington, Missouri, a little ways outside of KC. She was so angry with us. I then went on to meet more than one person who got Guillain-Barre Syndrome from the shot.
Is the flu potentially dangerous? Yes. Do people die from the flu every year? Yes. Do the pharmaceutical companies make big money from the scare tactics and immunizations? Oh, yes.
I just don't trust many things that are pushed in this country and this is one. Hysteria makes me put on the brakes and question what is being said.
I get sick once every 3 to 5 years that knocks me out for a fews days. I refuse to use antibacterial anything. I want their genes to be diluted.
I can feel when I am starting to get sick and start to take aspirin to keep the fever from getting started and w within 5 days all is well. I feel that fighting the fever weakens the body from fighting the virus.
I have no scientific proof or evidence just my results. Keep your fever down and your body only has to fight one battle.
I can feel when I am starting to get sick and start to take aspirin to keep the fever from getting started and w within 5 days all is well. I feel that fighting the fever weakens the body from fighting the virus.
I have no scientific proof or evidence just my results. Keep your fever down and your body only has to fight one battle.
There are two problem with the flu shots. First nobody knows which flu strain is going to hit and the past record is about zero success in their guesses. The other thing is that the viruses evolve so even if they did guess the right virus there is the chance that the vaccine wouldn't work anyway.
I don't get flu shots and I rarely have any problems even at 67 years old. I have a very active immune system and my body does a great job of healing even from injuries. My doctor pushes the imunizations ad I politely tell her no thank you. She listens most of the time because I tend to get real stubborn when she doesn't.
I don't get flu shots and I rarely have any problems even at 67 years old. I have a very active immune system and my body does a great job of healing even from injuries. My doctor pushes the imunizations ad I politely tell her no thank you. She listens most of the time because I tend to get real stubborn when she doesn't.
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I just read that now dr.s are saying the fever is what helps heal the flu. I know when we were kids back in the 50s,they would wrap us up in blankets and put vicks on us to sweat it out. Honey,lemon mixed with whiskey or whatever alcohol they had on hand. And chicken soup. I hear coffee is also good fro respitory blockage.
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If the flu shot works so good why do so many people have the flu? Hubbys job all took the shot but him and 2 others. All of them were sick with flu but him and the other 2. He said ' get away from me I don't want that crap thats why I didn't take the shot '. Of course I guess it works for some or lessons symptoms.
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I've been down with this stuff for over a week. Finally went in and it's turned to bronchitis. The doc said there is a virus going around (starts as sinus then moves onto the chest). Apparently some people are getting through it okay but a lot of people are coming down with pneumonia or bronchitis. It's a nasty bug.
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I had a fever of 102 last thursday. It was gone Friday, but I'm still dealing with the cough. I can "taste" the congestion when I cough hard.
Wife has had a fever on-and-off since Friday. Same cough. Finally went to the doctor today and got some pills.
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If the coughs stop being productive and you aren't getting up the phlegm then get to the doctor. The unproductive cough is a sign it's moving into bronchitis or pneumonia.
Both DH and myself came down with bacterial pneumonia in around July and apparently it was from the flu virus that was going around. Took around 3 weeks for both of us to get over and left us both weak as kittens. We did take antibiotics for it and two courses of them which worked well.
I can't have the flu injection as I am allergic to it and even though they tried to give it to me years ago in a quarter dose at a time I ended up in hospital not being able to breathe and turned blue. They think it has something to do with the egg base in it for me anyway. DH won't have the flu injection either as there is a history of complications with family having adverse reactions to the injections too.
My friends who had the flu injection came down with pneumonia worse than us and it put some of them out of commission for 2 months and some more. It says something about our immune systems being so much stronger I think.
The comment earlier about the flu vaccination only being 10% effective was correct for us here in Australia. The vaccine was almost not effective just about at all for the Influenza A flu which is what went around here and then turned as a complication into bacterial pneumonia.
Just be warned too that if you have this you may start feeling better and then fall into a crashing heap again so you may as many did here require two courses of antibiotics to get rid of it and do rest and take it easy.
I can't have the flu injection as I am allergic to it and even though they tried to give it to me years ago in a quarter dose at a time I ended up in hospital not being able to breathe and turned blue. They think it has something to do with the egg base in it for me anyway. DH won't have the flu injection either as there is a history of complications with family having adverse reactions to the injections too.
My friends who had the flu injection came down with pneumonia worse than us and it put some of them out of commission for 2 months and some more. It says something about our immune systems being so much stronger I think.
The comment earlier about the flu vaccination only being 10% effective was correct for us here in Australia. The vaccine was almost not effective just about at all for the Influenza A flu which is what went around here and then turned as a complication into bacterial pneumonia.
Just be warned too that if you have this you may start feeling better and then fall into a crashing heap again so you may as many did here require two courses of antibiotics to get rid of it and do rest and take it easy.
This is exactly what I've been following about this year's flu and how they missed the cocktail this year for it.
I've spent the last 2 days dealing with the flu epidemic that hit my community really hard over the weekend. During flu season, I'll usually see 5 or 6 cases a day through the emergency department - but this weekend, we've had 46 cases so far! And, a lot of them are going into severe respiratory problems, including pneumonia, acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) and even respiratory failure. You would think it is the elderly that get so sick, but it's not. It has been the middle-aged folks (40-70) that are being hit the hardest. I'm glad I have my flu shot- even if it is only 10% effective against the predominant strain, it offers some degree of cross coverage for other strains and it certainly diminishes the impact of strains it is not intended to cover. Seeing the patients in the ICU my age and younger on ventilators for respiratory collapse related to the flu makes me want to have all the protection I can get! We are passing out masks to people in waiting rooms and other areas in the hospital to try to decrease the risk of spread, and making people wash their hands like crazy. I've also restricted all kids under 12 from visiting (except healthy siblings coming in to meet a new brother or sister, and even then, there have been some pretty stringent conditions put in place). Today, I told administration we are officially in an epidemic - which means our emergency preparedness team is waiting in the background to enact our hospital incident command. We're not yet at that point, but if we continue to see so many cases, I will have to enact our pandemic plan.
I hear lots of myths about the flu, and flu shots. The biggest one is that people are afraid they will get the flu from the shot, and that is not possible if you get an inactivated or recombinant flu vaccine. It is remotely possible with an attenuated vaccine, but last year's nasal spray vaccine (which was attenuated) is not recommended for use this year. A lot of people get gastro-intestinal viruses mixed up with the flu. The flu is a respiratory disease (which may involve nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea) but there is no such thing as a "stomach flu". Antibiotics DO NOT help the flu, and unless you have specific evidence of a bacterial pneumonia superimposed on your flu (such as a culture or an x-ray study), you should NOT take antibiotics. When that superimposed infection occurs, there is not a specific antibiotic that is always used. Ceftriaxone and azithromycin are usually the big guns that are given for coverage of bacterial pneumonia, but that's like killing a spider on your patio with a flamethrower. Once the physician finds out the causative agent for the pneumonia, then antibiotics can be trimmed down and tailored to the specific pathogen. The only medications that will kill of the flu are antivirals like oseltamivir *Tamiflu). Even then, it needs to be given within 48-72 hours of the start of the infection to be really effective. Other drugs that are given (such as steroids, decongestants, etc.) don't affect the flu virus, but do help the symptoms.
The absolute best things anyone can do to prevent getting the flu are:
1. Get a flu shot!
2. Avoid crowded places. If you can't avoid those places, consider wearing a procedure mask (an N-95 mask is not necessary unless you are providing medical care up close and performing procedures that will aerosolize the virus, meaning cause it to be heavily spread into the air)
3. Wash your hands as often as you can!
4. Consider surfaces in public areas to be contaminated- so wipe down the handle on your grocery cart, and don't handle side rails, elevator buttons, etc unless you sanitize your hands afterwards
5. Stay away from sick people!
Of course, one of my worst case SHTF scenarios is a pandemic of a virus that goes rogue and mutates. As a prep for this consider having on hand the following:
For the sick patients, I recommending stocking the following:
I hear lots of myths about the flu, and flu shots. The biggest one is that people are afraid they will get the flu from the shot, and that is not possible if you get an inactivated or recombinant flu vaccine. It is remotely possible with an attenuated vaccine, but last year's nasal spray vaccine (which was attenuated) is not recommended for use this year. A lot of people get gastro-intestinal viruses mixed up with the flu. The flu is a respiratory disease (which may involve nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea) but there is no such thing as a "stomach flu". Antibiotics DO NOT help the flu, and unless you have specific evidence of a bacterial pneumonia superimposed on your flu (such as a culture or an x-ray study), you should NOT take antibiotics. When that superimposed infection occurs, there is not a specific antibiotic that is always used. Ceftriaxone and azithromycin are usually the big guns that are given for coverage of bacterial pneumonia, but that's like killing a spider on your patio with a flamethrower. Once the physician finds out the causative agent for the pneumonia, then antibiotics can be trimmed down and tailored to the specific pathogen. The only medications that will kill of the flu are antivirals like oseltamivir *Tamiflu). Even then, it needs to be given within 48-72 hours of the start of the infection to be really effective. Other drugs that are given (such as steroids, decongestants, etc.) don't affect the flu virus, but do help the symptoms.
The absolute best things anyone can do to prevent getting the flu are:
1. Get a flu shot!
2. Avoid crowded places. If you can't avoid those places, consider wearing a procedure mask (an N-95 mask is not necessary unless you are providing medical care up close and performing procedures that will aerosolize the virus, meaning cause it to be heavily spread into the air)
3. Wash your hands as often as you can!
4. Consider surfaces in public areas to be contaminated- so wipe down the handle on your grocery cart, and don't handle side rails, elevator buttons, etc unless you sanitize your hands afterwards
5. Stay away from sick people!
Of course, one of my worst case SHTF scenarios is a pandemic of a virus that goes rogue and mutates. As a prep for this consider having on hand the following:
- gloves (nitrile ones are good, and better than vinyl food service quality gloves)
- procedure masks
- N-95 masks
- lots of alcohol hand sanitizer
- isolation gowns or bunny suits (level 2 or greater)
- bleach
- some kind of disinfecting wipes/ sprays. Read the label, though, to be sure the wipes/sprays are effective against viruses!
For the sick patients, I recommending stocking the following:
- ibuprofen to help with fever and body aches
- liquids (tea, broth, juices) for hydration
- lots of kleenex!
- nasal spray (just plain saline spray can be soothing to inflamed noses!)
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There was an article I saw a few days ago from the CDC that says there is so little egg protein in flu shots now that they are safe even for people with egg allergies. There is also an egg-free vaccine available.
Thanks @DrPrepper I will look into it. Asked my doctor recently and he didn't have a clue so will find more information on it.
YOU stay safe and don't catch what your treating people for. Hubby said if there's a significant flu outbreak here I have to go to out Mtn place until July.... just. To be safe.
I've been down with bacterial pneumonia twice since September and it sucks! Azithromycin didn't touch it. The first go round I started on azithromycin and methylprednisolone. Nothing. Got a shot of something and after what felt like a year started Levaquin. Thought it was gone. It came back just in time for my birthday. Doc went straight to a higher/longer dose of the Levaquin. I go back on the 4 th for a check up and more blood work. Hope it stays gone.
You're still on my prayer list.YOU stay safe and don't catch what your treating people for. Hubby said if there's a significant flu outbreak here I have to go to out Mtn place until July.... just. To be safe.
I've been down with bacterial pneumonia twice since September and it sucks! Azithromycin didn't touch it. The first go round I started on azithromycin and methylprednisolone. Nothing. Got a shot of something and after what felt like a year started Levaquin. Thought it was gone. It came back just in time for my birthday. Doc went straight to a higher/longer dose of the Levaquin. I go back on the 4 th for a check up and more blood work. Hope it stays gone.
YOU stay safe and don't catch what your treating people for. Hubby said if there's a significant flu outbreak here I have to go to out Mtn place until July.... just. To be safe.
I've been down with bacterial pneumonia twice since September and it sucks! Azithromycin didn't touch it. The first go round I started on azithromycin and methylprednisolone. Nothing. Got a shot of something and after what felt like a year started Levaquin. Thought it was gone. It came back just in time for my birthday. Doc went straight to a higher/longer dose of the Levaquin. I go back on the 4 th for a check up and more blood work. Hope it stays gone.
Thanks, Terri! I'm sorry to hear you are having to go through protracted antibiotic therapy. That is rough. I hope you're also taking probiotics like bacid or florastor to keep the Clostridium difficile at bay!
As for me, I do practice what I preach about isolation garb, hand hygiene,etc. I keep a half-gallon jug of hand sanitizer on my desk, and make everyone coming to see me use it! I'm also not shy about asking visitors who are sick to leave and take their germs with them, so I suspect I will stay safe from the flu this year! :thumbs up:
I don't think there's an antidote for chemtrails yet.
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Thank you so much. I'm feeling much better. Still have an ocassional cough but I think it's the cold air aggravating my asthma.
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ROFL, Lizard man! She needs to take good germs (probiotics) so her gut doesn't let the bad germs (Clostridium difficile) get carried away and give her the mega-runs (or as my kids used to call it, the juicy squirts!!!) Now, aren't you glad you asked????Sounded good Doc, but could we have that again in English.
Nope, but I'll ask about it next week when I go to the Dr.
ROFL, Lizard man! She needs to take good germs (probiotics) so her gut doesn't let the bad germs (Clostridium difficile) get carried away and give her the mega-runs (or as my kids used to call it, the juicy squirts!!!) Now, aren't you glad you asked????
Now I'm definitely going to ask! I was in the middle of looking up Clostridium difficile but I think you've given a good description of it.
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ROFL, Lizard man! She needs to take good germs (probiotics) so her gut doesn't let the bad germs (Clostridium difficile) get carried away and give her the mega-runs (or as my kids used to call it, the juicy squirts!!!) Now, aren't you glad you asked????
They say knowledge is power but I am not sure how that is going to work in this case. Thanks for the response, I think.
They say knowledge is power but I am not sure how that is going to work in this case. Thanks for the response, I think.
Gee, too bad we don't have a smiley to illustrate that!
Glad you are feeling better @Terri9630 and hope it continues that way and the pneumonia disappears.
@DrPrepper we always eat lots of yoghurt if we take antibiotics and find that helps is the other probiotics you mentioned stronger or does yoghurt do the job ?.
@DrPrepper we always eat lots of yoghurt if we take antibiotics and find that helps is the other probiotics you mentioned stronger or does yoghurt do the job ?.
I've found yogurt will do the job- if it is "real" yogurt. That means yogurt with live active cultures, usually of Lactobacillus bulgaricus, Streptococcus thermophilus, and/or Lactobacillus acidophilus. If the yogurt does not have live active cultures on the label, it may taste good, but it will not work as a probiotic.
Thanks for confirming that @DrPrepper yes I agree that it has to have active cultures in it and that is the only "real" yoghurt there is and what we usually eat. Some and a lot are flavoured sugar more than anything else.
