I have long felt that the prepping movement has this figured wrong.
For this thread, beyond your personal situation... two weeks or two months into an event, where will you be wishing you were located.
If I want to outlive the cockroaches? On a catamaran in the Pacific. If I'm desperate enough to tempt mother nature, retreat to Point Nemo. The weather down there is pretty gnarly though. Willfully staying there would be akin to following a hurricane in a hot air balloon. There's several small, barely inhabited islands to the north.For this thread, beyond your personal situation, try to think "NEW", two weeks or two months into an event, where will you be wishing you were located.
I have thought for some time along the lines of: a third world country = where they already know how to survive on nothing. Or any area here within the US that is close to that paramotor. Where are folks most able to live on very little? Becoming a part or at least an elusive neighbor to such a community could be a good location in that they (preferably a sparsely populated "they") would be more apt to fend for themselves, defend what little they have, and not be a target for those on the hunt for things of value.For this thread, beyond your personal situation, try to think "NEW", two weeks or two months into an event, where will you be wishing you were located.
Sounds like the Amish or Mennonites, aside from their pacifist beliefs...I have thought for some time along the lines of: a third world country = where they already know how to survive on nothing. Or any area here within the US that is close to that paramotor. Where are folks most able to live on very little? Becoming a part or at least an elusive neighbor to such a community could be a good location in that they (preferably a sparsely populated "they") would be more apt to fend for themselves, defend what little they have, and not be a target for those on the hunt for things of value.
This is my initial thought but might need to think more deeply on the subject.
Maybe historically but anymore, I think they are just as tainted by dependance as many others - the caveat being I do think they have a much stronger sense of community than most "English." There are some very wealthy Amish and some not so wealthy which I think has something to do with it all.Sounds like the Amish or Mennonites, aside from their pacifist beliefs...
I put a lot of thought in to this before buying this place. It's about as good of a location as there is to be had in my opinion. According to the maps the prevailing winds should keep NBC pretty well away from us and there aren't any close probable targets that I know of. For me the best part is probably less than 200 people even know there is a place back here in these woods and unless you already know no one in there right mind would expect there to be a small farm / homestead here 2 miles from anything else down a barely passible logging road.For this thread, beyond your personal situation, try to think "NEW", two weeks or two months into an event, where will you be wishing you were located.
Congratulations........Well done. I would sometimes see that situation when ferrying aircraft through western Canada to Alaska. Trees so thick you can't see a horse trail or tiny dirt road, just a small clearing with smoke coming from a chimney. No other sign of life as far as I could see from 7,000 AGL.I put a lot of thought in to this before buying this place. It's about as good of a location as there is to be had in my opinion. According to the maps the prevailing winds should keep NBC pretty well away from us and there aren't any close probable targets that I know of. For me the best part is probably less than 200 people even know there is a place back here in these woods and unless you already know no one in there right mind would expect there to be a small farm / homestead here 2 miles from anything else down a barely passible logging road.
Very nice example of being clear about your prepping/survival location objectives.Dawn and I spent a lot of time just trying to figure out what are the likely things that seemed to be going wrong with the world and to determine what we needed to survive and prosper for the possible (probable?) hard times. These included:
We looked for inexpensive land with good soil, lots of sun, four seasons, and a solid aquifer to ensure a permanent supply of potable and irrigation water. We looked for a one-party state to help minimize civil disturbances, somewhere where the politics are pretty laissez-faire, homeschool-friendly, and minimized zoning/HOA busy-bodies. Friendly neighbors, enough isolation for a bit of privacy, and reasonable access to a good hospital. Home Depot, Wal-Mart, and a farm supply store.
- Increased violence within the US. driven by racial, economic, and social/political issues;
- Possibility of fiscal crises which would wipe out peoples' savings (retirees and wage-earners);
- Natural and socio-political disasters exacerbated by climate change issues.
We chose to relocate in 2018 from Mesa AZ -- a suburban community of about a half million -- to Twin Falls County ID, a primarily rural (dairy, hay, potatoes, sugar beets, and other vegetable crops) area. Idaho is a very Red state with an extremely large prepper population (Eastern Idaho is predominately LDS, as are most of our new friends-'-neighbors).
Hunting and fishing, as well as other outdoor recreation activities, are superb. Our neighbors have been extremely helpful and accepting of us, advising us in picking our livestock, and always showing up when it's time to pull a new fence or dig a settling pond for our irrigation. They've forgotten more about year's supply approaches for food and other items which has itself been worth the trip.
It's not perfect by any means; there are few "big city" amenities. Also, we have Californians coming in daily! All in all, though, we think we've picked the best location and situation we could've hoped for -- it's almost a prepper's paradise! I figure we're as safe here (realistically) as just about any place else in North America.
Good move!We chose to relocate in 2018 from Mesa AZ -- a suburban community of about a half million -- to Twin Falls County ID, a primarily rural (dairy, hay, potatoes, sugar beets, and other vegetable crops) area. Idaho is a very Red state with an extremely large prepper population (Eastern Idaho is predominately LDS, as are most of our new friends-'-neighbors).
It's not perfect by any means; there are few "big city" amenities. Also, we have Californians coming in daily! All in all, though, we think we've picked the best location and situation we could've hoped for -- it's almost a prepper's paradise! I figure we're as safe here (realistically) as just about any place else in North America.
Thanks for the kind words, Sourdough and Supervisors. Our "threat analysis/response" plan actually came from a course I was taking at business school couple years before I retired. It was called "Overgrowth Strategies in International Finance" or some other meaningless MBA-ish title, but the instructor was a retired Army O-6 who used to flog the idea of reducing survival plans (of a business, not necessarily "prepper" stuff; but it was the same idea) to numbers so as to better meet battle contingencies. (This was originated, I think, by Robert McNamara, which is why we lost Vietnam, but I digress....)Very nice example of being clear about your prepping/survival location objectives.
being a foreigner in another country is not a wise idea, especially in a SHTF situation, no matter how little you think you have you will always be better off than the locals, and guess who will get targeted for looting first? not the locals who have always lived there thats for sure!I have thought for some time along the lines of: a third world country = where they already know how to survive on nothing. Or any area here within the US that is close to that paramotor. Where are folks most able to live on very little? Becoming a part or at least an elusive neighbor to such a community could be a good location in that they (preferably a sparsely populated "they") would be more apt to fend for themselves, defend what little they have, and not be a target for those on the hunt for things of value.
This is my initial thought but might need to think more deeply on the subject.
That can apply within your own country. Heck, within your own state.being a foreigner in another country is not a wise idea, especially in a SHTF situation, no matter how little you think you have you will always be better off than the locals, and guess who will get targeted for looting first? not the locals who have always lived there thats for sure!
When I was a young boy (ages 7 - 16) my father was a USG employee living in Micronesia, which the US administered for the UN. Our family lived in what is now the Federated States of Micronesia. I always wanted to go "home", and finally returned (with my own family this time) for a month when I was in my early fifties. Although it's a foreign country, the universal language is English the official currency is the USD. Any Micronesian can visit (and stay) the US and US citizens can move there as well, although FSM citizenship is not granted.I have thought for some time along the lines of: a third world country = where they already know how to survive on nothing. Or any area here within the US that is close to that paramotor. Where are folks most able to live on very little? Becoming a part or at least an elusive neighbor to such a community could be a good location in that they (preferably a sparsely populated "they") would be more apt to fend for themselves, defend what little they have, and not be a target for those on the hunt for things of value.
This is my initial thought but might need to think more deeply on the subject.
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